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Thread: Prepare for group attacks using SL buffs

WookieOgre
Thu Oct 20, 2005 5:47 am
#1

As I figuered, having a BH with a SL grouped will help a BH tremendously.


With the buffs from a single SL a BH can hit a Master Defender for over 1k in PvP. Now imagine when 2 SL group with the BH (buffs will stack) or when 3 SL group?


Sad to say I saw this the last couple of days before BETA was turned off. A BH was able to hit me for over 1.5k each Critical and 1.1k for the alternating attack. I said it then and I'm saying it again, SL buffs belong in group play. SL buffs have absolutely no place in Duels which is what a BH/Jedi fight is, a Duel.


Bac I think this issue needs to be addressed. It's been suggested a possible fix would have both the Jedi and the BH's SL buffs drop once a BH TEF is enabled. That is by far the ONLY way I see to balance this. We are a broken profession, nerfed every patch, and yet it takes this to finally make me realize I will not long my Jedi until this is balanced. If Jedi was nerfed to accomidate the solo BH, why is that this new SL change encourages BH's to group hunt? Can you ask that to the devs please.
Gambunta
Thu Oct 20, 2005 5:49 am
#2

time for us to get us SLrs then aswell, dont the SL buffs work for melee aswell? (if im wrong ill retract my statment)



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Cutlass-Shadowfire
Thu Oct 20, 2005 5:50 am
#3






WookieOgre wrote:

As I figuered, having a BH with a SL grouped will help a BH tremendously.


With the buffs from a single SL a BH can hit a Master Defender for over 1k in PvP. Now imagine when 2 SL group with the BH (buffs will stack) or when 3 SL group?


Sad to say I saw this the last couple of days before BETA was turned off. A BH was able to hit me for over 1.5k each Critical and 1.1k for the alternating attack. I said it then and I'm saying it again, SL buffs belong in group play. SL buffs have absolutely no place in Duels which is what a BH/Jedi fight is, a Duel.


Bac I think this issue needs to be addressed. It's been suggested a possible fix would have both the Jedi and the BH's SL buffs drop once a BH TEF is enabled. That is by far the ONLY way I see to balance this. We are a broken profession, nerfed every patch, and yet it takes this to finally make me realize I will not long my Jedi until this is balanced. If Jedi was nerfed to accomidate the solo BH, why is that this new SL change encourages BH's to group hunt? Can you ask that to the devs please.





I am Still wondering why they are making it EASIER and EASIER to kill the jedi instead of keeping it the current, why would you let a single player get so unbalanced as to take a jedi out in a few hits or a couple of mins.
Redginald
Thu Oct 20, 2005 5:58 am
#4

because BH's whine and whine and whine about how "strong" Jedi are and how they want to kill them in 1 hit and the devs get on their knees to service them. and leave us in the grave.
Keriz
Thu Oct 20, 2005 6:00 am
#5






Gambunta wrote:
time for us to get us SLrs then aswell, dont the SL buffs work for melee aswell? (if im wrong ill retract my statment)





I assume they do but that is not the point. One of the problems theCURB was suppose to fix was... not having to have buffs all the time.


WookieOgre
Thu Oct 20, 2005 6:01 am
#6






Gambunta wrote:
time for us to get us SLrs then aswell, dont the SL buffs work for melee aswell? (if im wrong ill retract my statment)





Yes, of course SL buffs works for anyone. Your statment is not wrong just not reasonable.


The moment a Jedi can hunt BH's anywhere or anytime is when the SL buffs would actually be fair. Right now you can not expect a Jedi to log into the game and immediately find a SL to follow him EVERYWHERE. Where BH's were just looking for a REASON to group, Jedi should not be required to have a SL friend with them at all time. Heck there are guilds which the main focous is to kill Jedi. Even if you are to get one SL to constantly group with your Jedi, what happens when a 4 man group shows up (1 BH + 3 SL buffing him). It's not fair anyway you slice it.



wildcat84
Thu Oct 20, 2005 6:04 am
#7

If the producers didn't forsee this (they were warned of it in the discussion threads, which they obviously never read) they are unqualified and should be packed off to produce powerpoint presentations.



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ImperialObserver101
Thu Oct 20, 2005 6:05 am
#8

lol y are u guys crying, squad leader will get nerfed in a patch or so. u will see.



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Pday
Thu Oct 20, 2005 6:06 am
#9






wildcat84 wrote:
If the producers didn't forsee this (they were warned of it in the discussion threads, which they obviously never read) they are unqualified and should be packed off to produce powerpoint presentations.




we were constantly warining they on the SL buffs, snare changes, new weapon changes and so on, for the entire duration of beta.



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WookieOgre
Thu Oct 20, 2005 6:11 am
#10






ImperialObserver101 wrote:
lol y are u guys crying, squad leader will get nerfed in a patch or so. u will see.





See and that is what worries me. The focus should be on BH/Jedi, period. Find a way to eliminate the buffs when a TEF is present. Suddenly it's not unbalanced.


SL's are for group PvP and PvE. It is not meant to make BH's unstoppable. I do not want to see SL's touched from the Jedi/BH fights. It sickens me to see other professions get nerfed because the devs are too lazy to realize BH hunts should work off different rules than the rest of the combat system.


Nurse25
Thu Oct 20, 2005 6:16 am
#11






ImperialObserver101 wrote:
lol y are u guys crying, squad leader will get nerfed in a patch or so. u will see.





Thats not the point...WHY in the world are all these very poor changes being put in this game?


This game was more fun before the CU.


ImperialObserver101
Thu Oct 20, 2005 6:26 am
#12



Nurse25 wrote:


ImperialObserver101 wrote:
lol y are u guys crying, squad leader will get nerfed in a patch or so. u will see.


Thats not the point...WHY in the world are all these very poor changes being put in this game?

This game was more fun before the CU.






LOL! ur telling like the guy who misses pre cu the most...



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Bad_Mo_Fracky
Thu Oct 20, 2005 6:29 am
#13

Duel? what duel?? You cowards never stay and fight!!!
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