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Thread: 1.5 stronger
ysa wrote:Well i have been reading a lot on proposal's for frs ideas what's to be expected mods etc and it got me thinking how can a jedi be 1.5 stronger then others at a padiwan level? Where i am going with this is if they made padiwans 1.5 stronger now what happens when frs comes and we get all the knights mods etc.. then we would be way over powered i have a feeling the frs "when" it comes back will give jedi the 1.5 stenghth we all so wish to have now i am not full temp 3/4 done post cu jedi with a 600 max saber and i feel i can defend my self most of the time with cms etc as long as they are not full equipped with armor break uber stats and such so once knight trials, frs comes back and we get these mods (post cu jedi so i don't know what to expect) that this will grant us that power =D just putting my thoughts down please express yours...
We aren't 1.5 times more powerful.
oANUBUSo wrote:
padawan are suppose to be only 1x as powerful as any melee prof. the knight box is suppose to give you the 1.5x advantage. ppl who whine about being underpowered really don't have a clue. and theres no use trying to explain to them because they refuse to listen being so impatient and ignorant on there potential power gains in the FRS.
i believe u r wrong(believe i use strongly as i am not 100% sure) but they said "a fully templated padawan should be 1.5x stronger than a full temp normy" (srry for the term normy... but i like it lol)
and those who r 1.5x stronger (cuz u r not actually innately 1.5x stronger although thats wat they claim) r the ones that know their temp and r skilled at this game.
oANUBUSo wrote:
padawan are suppose to be only 1x as powerful as any melee prof. the knight box is suppose to give you the 1.5x advantage. ppl who whine about being underpowered really don't have a clue. and theres no use trying to explain to them because they refuse to listen being so impatient and ignorant on there potential power gains in the FRS.
That's probably because they have nothing to do because they feel they can't pvp, nor are BH's afraid of even templated jedi now. We also are limited on options without the FRS and everyone feels they are at a dead-end in the game right now. I for one feel that way. I never once dreamed i would be grinding my alt after I got jedi, but I've already grinded out two characters. It's pitiful.
RebelArchAngel wrote:
oANUBUSo wrote:
padawan are suppose to be only 1x as powerful as any melee prof. the knight box is suppose to give you the 1.5x advantage. ppl who whine about being underpowered really don't have a clue. and theres no use trying to explain to them because they refuse to listen being so impatient and ignorant on there potential power gains in the FRS.
i believe u r wrong(believe i use strongly as i am not 100% sure) but they said "a fully templated padawan should be 1.5x stronger than a full temp normy" (srry for the term normy... but i like it lol)and those who r 1.5x stronger (cuz u r not actually innately 1.5x stronger although thats wat they claim) r the ones that know their temp and r skilled at this game.
Then the same applies for a MBH/MCM ..if they have half a brain. They just keep you debuffed and there is no way in hell you are gonna outdamage their healing hitting them once every 6 seconds or so. Not with a post-cu saber anyway (I'm post-cu so I wont speak for pre-cu). They just keep hitting you and kiting until you run out of force and then bang your dead. Good game. Also, with paralyze, there is no chance of them missing it. I don't care what kind of "skills" you have...
jonstraf wrote:
RebelArchAngel wrote:
oANUBUSo wrote:
padawan are suppose to be only 1x as powerful as any melee prof. the knight box is suppose to give you the 1.5x advantage. ppl who whine about being underpowered really don't have a clue. and theres no use trying to explain to them because they refuse to listen being so impatient and ignorant on there potential power gains in the FRS.
i believe u r wrong(believe i use strongly as i am not 100% sure) but they said "a fully templated padawan should be 1.5x stronger than a full temp normy" (srry for the term normy... but i like it lol)
and those who r 1.5x stronger (cuz u r not actually innately 1.5x stronger although thats wat they claim) r the ones that know their temp and r skilled at this game.
Then the same applies for a MBH/MCM ..if they have half a brain. They just keep you debuffed and there is no way in hell you are gonna outdamage their healing hitting them once every 6 seconds or so. Not with a post-cu saber anyway (I'm post-cu so I wont speak for pre-cu). They just keep hitting you and kiting until you run out of force and then bang your dead. Good game. Also, with paralyze, there is no chance of them missing it. I don't care what kind of "skills" you have...
uc this is all avoidable if u have the MIND POWER lol... use every skill u have... dont just have ur favorite combo in your toolbar... anyone with cloak can beat a sniper or a rooter (not saying u need it) and the MBH/MCM... well... they r good if they can beat a full temp... they learned their temp... hose who lose often should learn theirs
RebelArchAngel wrote:
jonstraf wrote:
RebelArchAngel wrote:
oANUBUSo wrote:
padawan are suppose to be only 1x as powerful as any melee prof. the knight box is suppose to give you the 1.5x advantage. ppl who whine about being underpowered really don't have a clue. and theres no use trying to explain to them because they refuse to listen being so impatient and ignorant on there potential power gains in the FRS.
i believe u r wrong(believe i use strongly as i am not 100% sure) but they said "a fully templated padawan should be 1.5x stronger than a full temp normy" (srry for the term normy... but i like it lol)and those who r 1.5x stronger (cuz u r not actually innately 1.5x stronger although thats wat they claim) r the ones that know their temp and r skilled at this game.
Then the same applies for a MBH/MCM ..if they have half a brain. They just keep you debuffed and there is no way in hell you are gonna outdamage their healing hitting them once every 6 seconds or so. Not with a post-cu saber anyway (I'm post-cu so I wont speak for pre-cu). They just keep hitting you and kiting until you run out of force and then bang your dead. Good game. Also, with paralyze, there is no chance of them missing it. I don't care what kind of "skills" you have...
uc this is all avoidable if u have the MIND POWER lol... use every skill u have... dont just have ur favorite combo in your toolbar... anyone with cloak can beat a sniper or a rooter (not saying u need it) and the MBH/MCM... well... they r good if they can beat a full temp... they learned their temp... hose who lose often should learn theirs
I don't lose often thanks, I've only lost once to a BH. He was a MBH/MCM and i was only half-template and didn't really understand this new breed of MCM. If you can sit there and tell me that it takes mentality to click paralyze when a jedi gets close, then click the speed debuff button, then click electrolyte drain and go X meters away and start shooting again, then you sir need to rethink your life. Using 1 or 2 skills should not determine the battle.
jonstraf wrote:
RebelArchAngel wrote:
jonstraf wrote:
RebelArchAngel wrote:
oANUBUSo wrote:
padawan are suppose to be only 1x as powerful as any melee prof. the knight box is suppose to give you the 1.5x advantage. ppl who whine about being underpowered really don't have a clue. and theres no use trying to explain to them because they refuse to listen being so impatient and ignorant on there potential power gains in the FRS.
i believe u r wrong(believe i use strongly as i am not 100% sure) but they said "a fully templated padawan should be 1.5x stronger than a full temp normy" (srry for the term normy... but i like it lol)
and those who r 1.5x stronger (cuz u r not actually innately 1.5x stronger although thats wat they claim) r the ones that know their temp and r skilled at this game.
Then the same applies for a MBH/MCM ..if they have half a brain. They just keep you debuffed and there is no way in hell you are gonna outdamage their healing hitting them once every 6 seconds or so. Not with a post-cu saber anyway (I'm post-cu so I wont speak for pre-cu). They just keep hitting you and kiting until you run out of force and then bang your dead. Good game. Also, with paralyze, there is no chance of them missing it. I don't care what kind of "skills" you have...
uc this is all avoidable if u have the MIND POWER lol... use every skill u have... dont just have ur favorite combo in your toolbar... anyone with cloak can beat a sniper or a rooter (not saying u need it) and the MBH/MCM... well... they r good if they can beat a full temp... they learned their temp... hose who lose often should learn theirs
I don't lose often thanks, I've only lost once to a BH. He was a MBH/MCM and i was only half-template and didn't really understand this new breed of MCM. If you can sit there and tell me that it takes mentality to click paralyze when a jedi gets close, then click the speed debuff button, then click electrolyte drain and go X meters away and start shooting again, then you sir need to rethink your life. Using 1 or 2 skills should not determine the battle.
i apologize... i didnt mean to incure that u lose often... it was hypothetical... im srry if u took that the wrong way
The real question is 1.5x stronger than what?. Not all templates are equal and no matter how many times they "balance" things out unless they get to the point where the only difference is the title it never will be (I'm ok w that). A master Squad Leader/Master BH 4000 carbines would catch a bad one at the hands of a Master BH/Master CM 0004 pistols (of course im sure thered be an exception or two). Both Full temp CL80s but definitley not equal. So wich one is a Full temp 1.5 times stronger than? And how did they work player skill into their equation of 1.5x stronger.
The 1.5 x is a basic number they tossed out but its garbage you cant place some kind of a ratio on characters, to may variables at stake. Who has what equipment, what foods, what template, what prior experience, are we talking about a pvp or pve enviroment, he11 your rigg at home could cause you to loose. To many variables