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Thread: My thoughts on the Jedi Profession

wookieinthemist
Sun Oct 23, 2005 2:34 am
#1


I have seen the evolution of the Jedi througout the games history, been playin since aug of '03. I saw it go from a mystical and awe inspiring thing to a complete desecration of the name "Jedi". The bottom line is, and i know a lot dont want ot here this, is No Risk=No reward. Back with permadeath, a jedi could completely wipe out and entire starport full of people with ease, then came the skill loss, and no permadeath, still powerful. With the introduction to the village brought more jedi into the galaxies but at the cost of again a loss in power. Still it was very nice to be a jedi and see them in action. The bounty hunters/ Melee stackers started to level the playing field toward the CU but jedi were still the unmatched when pve was involved, and that was fine, especially for the non frs or non pvp players. With the CU cam a flood of jedi and ultimatly, the leveling and now, unbalaceing of the jedi profession. So i start reading the posts a little carefuly in all professions and the reality of it is, some people that play the game simply do not like jedi in this game. Even those who have jedi characters. The CGW forums are nothing but hate posts of this profession. A lot of the BH posts are the same way.


So this got me thinking, there are only 2 ways to correct these problems.


1: completely dump jedi from this game. No exceptions.


2: take jedi away from the rest of the players. In this i mean have the penalties of initiating combat with a non jedi so severe, they wont do it. The blue glowie system for example with the re-introduction of the saber TEF. If u use any powers,wear your robesor even have your saber equiped around any non jedi u should be attackable by all PC's and NPCs within a 30m radius. and in the event that u die, you cannot play your jedi for some predetermined time period depending on the death. Say 48 hours for dieing from a saber TEF in a starport, and maybe 12 hours from a death to a BH or Jedi duel.


the second part would also have to take away the jedis' ability to join the GCW factions. Ifyou can not be Rebel or Imperial, then they cant be in GCW warfare and thus the game returns to a more star wars like timeframe of events.


But here is the good thing about this, give us back power! make us 5 to 1 or even 10 to one compared to other players in the game. Bring back the excitement of PvE with jedi. Keep the BH system of hunting us, but put the names back on the terminals and let 5, 6 or even 8 take 1 mission with higher payouts. As for game content, i like the idea of having a hidden battle of Light and dark jedi battleing each other in remote spots of the galaxie like yavin and endor, and even have a jedi only planet like dagobah or something like that. The light/dark battle will have u attackable on the spot by any knight ranked jedi of the opposing faction if u hold the rank of knight or higher. Non pvp jedi can just forgo the knighttrials and still retain power for pve events and such.



Just some thoughts.


Now,


flame on!

Message Edited by wookieinthemist on 10-23-2005 03:54 AM



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noothername
Sun Oct 23, 2005 3:20 am
#2

i wish it could happen, but ive seen the forums increase by about 800 posts in the last 3 days and the devs are prolly gonna just pull the plug on the game or something cause its looking bad in forumville, everyone is pissed off and there isnt enough positive energy on either side of this thing us or the devs that will change the game, were mad, their mad that were mad, and no one is fixing anything, face it this game has gone to crap, maybe one day when the storm calms someone of importance will heed your call for a change. i myself have just unlocked jedi and im so upset, i wish i would have never even became glowie back in july before patch 19, after 19 i lost my force of will ability in tk, and after that the BE problems came up and then all of a sudden things just started falling apart, now i didnt start playing til june 20th this year, and i wish i could go back to july 11th when i got glowie and just not do it, ive since started my own city and guild of melee pvpers and i love that part of the game, now that i have my alt ill be playing him more then my new jedi. im gonna pick out a fun template that looks cool that can assist others in pve and just run and hide from the bh's as much as possible and maybe one day the game will be fixed and i can enjoy being a jedi, sorry bout the life story im just confused as to how the game can break itself as its getting improved by the devs. ive never seen this kind of problem in any other online game, ever. i hope your ideas make it one day that would be nice to see.



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Platium
Sun Oct 23, 2005 4:28 am
#3

the game is so ghosty lately... no melee professions playing anymore... ranged profession trying to find tanks, which are all trying to switch to ranged professions... that's just too bad there. I would accept the number 2 anytime. When i first saw a jedi in SWG it was near patch 8 or so and i saw him taking down like 30ppl, he was a jedi master and i believe we should be able to reach the same power now again. Pull as many bad stuff on us as u want, still make it possible for us to become powerful.
Kev0r
Sun Oct 23, 2005 4:36 am
#4






Platium wrote:
the game is so ghosty lately... no melee professions playing anymore... ranged profession trying to find tanks, which are all trying to switch to ranged professions... that's just too bad there. I would accept the number 2 anytime. When i first saw a jedi in SWG it was near patch 8 or so and i saw him taking down like 30ppl, he was a jedi master and i believe we should be able to reach the same power now again. Pull as many bad stuff on us as u want, still make it possible for us to become powerful.






Nobodoy can deny that this would be the ideal, but it can never happen in a game where the player is enabled to achieve a particular goal.


The great thing about PC games is that as long as you have the dedication, you can achieve anything that is laid out by the devs to be achievable. By letting players achieve jedi, they were bound to have a lot of people try for it; it's the most iconic part of the films....the films would be nothing without jedi in them.


Many players blame the state of jedi and the state of the game on the devs......it's their fault only in respect that they allowed jedi to be playable. But for jedi to not be playable would take out the heart of this game. I often hear the village being blamed for so many jedi around. I played well before then, well before holo farming from the weapons factory, well before the Xmas holo of 2003.....even back then, a full third of the players I knew were aiming for jedi at some point. It was inevitable that they would either achieve it, or quit the game entirely. Jedi is the only inevitable thing in this game.


Now we are in a position where my guild have a lot of jedi players, and some people with 2 jedi and 2 alts each. My friends book includes at least 50 names who are probably about 20 people! I see their jedi and mine as the classic sports car you take out on the weekend, and our alts as the working day Fords and Volkswagens


That's the only way the game can move forward, by encouraging us jedi to play both aspects of the game in order that it does not stagnate.


Message Edited by Kev0r on 10-23-2005 12:37 PM



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