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Thread: TKM/MDef

TKMaster-Doc
Sat Sep 10, 2005 6:05 pm
#1

Alright I understand the Innate armor doesnt stack, and there are rumors that hybrids will be screwed in the future, but does the ranged/melee defense stack? and is it possible to have COB and force aura stacked adding a total of 1000 ranged/melee def?



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Pedman
Sat Sep 10, 2005 6:06 pm
#2

hmmm
Glowstix
Sat Sep 10, 2005 6:10 pm
#3

i know somebody who stacks imp cob with imp duelist stance. so maybe.....



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TKMaster-Doc
Sat Sep 10, 2005 6:24 pm
#4

Alright so Im guessing here, but tell me if I'm right.


TKM-melee def= 85 ranged def= 55


MDF-melee def=235 ranged def= 215


Total- Melee def= 320 Ranged def= 270


Add imp cob and imp aura for an additional 1000 ranged/melee defense total.


And you get Melee def= 1320 Ranged def= 1270


And Innate Armor dosen't stack so instead of TKM 6000 IA you get MDef 7000 IA.


So if all this is true. Who cares about doing only a little bit of dmg from your TKM. When someone hits you, your not goign to take much dmg at all.


Then you only have like 31 SP left over, so I'd figure you throw it into 4000 Force heal and have 3 SP lef tover after that.


And if you take the ranged/melee def trees from FS then you have an additional 20 ranged/melee def.


So you now would have Melee def= 1340 Ranged def= 1290 with imp COB and imp aura stacked?>



And dont forget Avoid Incap



For some reason I dont think thats possible but if it is, that would be awsome





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Prefect42
Sat Sep 10, 2005 6:37 pm
#5

As I recall back when I was still a TKM right after the CU... I used a lightsaber with COB a lot...and of course pre-CU /center macro was indispensible... always running



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TKMaster-Doc
Sun Sep 11, 2005 4:18 am
#6

/bump Anyone know?



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MasterSheep
Sun Sep 11, 2005 4:48 am
#7

stacking melee ranged defence is great untill you face someone wielding a LS


what melee ranged def values do mainly is to make weapons hit with thier MIN damage rather than the MAX damage (750 more defence than acc = min damage 750more acc than defence = max damage) - so vs a laser rifle youll get hit for 500 rather than 1200 pre special multipler and armour


HOWEVER vs a saber youll get hit for say 500 rather than 600 - something that hardly makes any difference.. stacking def buffs sounds good in principle - but does very little in practice





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YeahButNo
Sun Sep 11, 2005 4:50 am
#8

TKM/Mdef shouldn't be a problem if they make it so u cant use force powers while weilding a weapon, you'll just have to go unarmed




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Eskie
Sun Sep 11, 2005 4:53 am
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MasterSheep wrote:

stacking melee ranged defence is great untill you face someone wielding a LS

what melee ranged def values do mainly is to make weapons hit with thier MIN damage rather than the MAX damage (750 more defence than acc = min damage 750 more acc than defence = max damage) - so vs a laser rifle youll get hit for 500 rather than 1200 pre special multipler and armour

HOWEVER vs a saber youll get hit for say 500 rather than 600 - something that hardly makes any difference.. stacking def buffs sounds good in principle - but does very little in practice





Primary effect of the accuracy / defense ratio is the miss rate. You probably will not get hit very often if you have 1000+ defense - on the other hand, if you get to 1000+ defense, you dont have a lot of damage output and accuracy, either.



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HarlequinMK19
Sun Sep 11, 2005 5:10 am
#10

More defenses...just what TK needs...



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Gavindar
Sun Sep 11, 2005 6:05 am
#11

I ran into a strange person a few weeks back that was dropping MLS for pike or something weird. Anyways he was a MDef and i can guarantee that COB and IMP Aura don't stack. IMPCOB and IMP Aura i doubt it but you never know.



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CURBhater
Sun Sep 11, 2005 7:03 am
#12


Why waste skillpoints on TKM when you can use a lightsaber and do more damage? Is it because you wanna save force when attacking?


Personally I think every Jedi on the server would walk straight over you,alot of Swordsmen/Mdoc would also




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