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Thread: Question : is it possible to be half Jedi / half something else and still cl80 ?

FortunoFiasco
Mon Sep 05, 2005 3:32 am
#1

I don't really know how CL is calculated, but is it possible (I don't care if it will be a weak jedi, just for fun) for example to drop enough skill points in a combat prof and go like saber 0404 and still be cl80 ?

Also, just for LS dmg and speed, is having only saber 0404 the same as a full temp with saber 0404 (apart from total force pool and such I mean) ?

I understand the problem would be (I wanted to keep TKM) the loss of TK innate armor while having a LS and no real jedi innate armor either...

Anyway, my question is just really about cl...

Thanks

Message Edited by FortunoFiasco on 09-05-2005 12:37 PM



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Mon Sep 05, 2005 4:03 am
#2

I believe CL is calculated differently for jedi, being 0404 LS grants higher CL than say 0404 Pistoleer. But not 100% sure on that, but I did notice I went up CL faster with fewer jedi skills. Just need to make sure you pick up those 4th tier boxes for the boost.




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Eskie
Mon Sep 05, 2005 4:11 am
#3


FortunoFiasco wrote:
I don't really know how CL is calculated, but is it possible (I don't care if it will be a weak jedi, just for fun) for example to drop enough skill points in a combat prof and go like saber 0404 and still be cl80 ?

Also, just for LS dmg and speed, is having only saber 0404 the same as a full temp with saber 0404 (apart from total force pool and such I mean) ?

I understand the problem would be (I wanted to keep TKM) the loss of TK innate armor while having a LS and no real jedi innate armor either...

Anyway, my question is just really about cl...

Thanks

Message Edited by FortunoFiasco on 09-05-2005 12:37 PM




You are CL 80 with just 4 Jedi tier 4 boxes and no other skills whatsoever (so Defender 4444 is CL 80), thats 88 skill points plus 24 FS skills.
Jedi boxes contribute more towards CL than regular elite boxes, but I dont know the formulas used. So a Jedi tier 4 box gives more CL than a regular elite tier 4 box.
I was CL 80 with Rifleman 4004 / LS 0400 / Heal 3000 / Enh 3002 / Def 0040 / Pow 0300. Before that I was CL 80 with Rifleman 4144 / LS 0400 / Heal 3000 / Enh 3002 / Def 0040 / Pow 0000.

On another note, if your TK innate armor has a higher rating than your Jedi innate armor, you will use your TK innate armor even if you have an LS equipped. The higher one of the two gets used as long as you dont wear any armor.

Message Edited by Eskie on 09-05-2005 01:15 PM



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MadisLylen
Mon Sep 05, 2005 4:19 am
#4


Any 4 tier 4 skills plus another jedi skill puts you at cl80. for example 4444 ls/ novice healer is cl80 just as Msaber or Mdefeder by themselves would be cl80. hope that helps with whatever template your trying to get.
MickGrey
Mon Sep 05, 2005 6:14 am
#5

Here's the formula I've noticed:

The 5 Novice Jedi Profession boxes do not count towards your Combat Level.
Tier 1 boxes count for 1 CL point.
Tier 2 boxes count for 2 CL points.
Tier 3 boxes count for 3 CL points.
Tier 4 boxes count for 4 CL points.
I haven't hit a Master box yet, but for now I'll assume that is 5 CL points.

It is possible to be CL 80 with 1 non-Jedi elite combat profession mastered plus a smattering of Jedi skills. This is something you'll have to work up to, though, as your CL will plunge as soon as you drop your 2nd elite combat profession and start training in the higher-cost/lower-CL-ranked Jedi skill boxes.

I re-attained CL 80 when I nearly spent all skill points from the 2nd elite combat profession (I think I had somewhere between 8-11 points left over at the time).

Hope this helps!



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FortunoFiasco
Mon Sep 05, 2005 9:12 am
#6



Eskie wrote:

On another note, if your TK innate armor has a higher rating than your Jedi innate armor, you will use your TK innate armor even if you have an LS equipped. The higher one of the two gets used as long as you dont wear any armor.




Oooooooh that would be so awesome !!!

Because for now I'm conseidering being TKM, LS 0404 and the rest of points in funny skills like in the movies (Force KD the one with the hand I guess, not a LS move, the one they use to KD the battle-droids, etc...) and yes force run IS in the movies too ("Master ! Destroyers !" ep1 Obi-Wan to Qui-gon and then they flee like faster than the roadrunner !).

So an example full template would be : TKM / LS 0404 / Enh 2000 / Heal 2000 / Pow 0004

So that's TK + LS + FR + KD + heal (yes that last one not in the movies !). Of course ranged and melee def would be low, etc... But then that might be a funny template to play, if not powerful, at least a little roleplay.

Oh and thanks for all you guys answers, not just the person I quoted above.



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Eskie
Mon Sep 05, 2005 9:15 am
#7



FortunoFiasco wrote:


Eskie wrote:

On another note, if your TK innate armor has a higher rating than your Jedi innate armor, you will use your TK innate armor even if you have an LS equipped. The higher one of the two gets used as long as you dont wear any armor.


(...)
So an example full template would be : TKM / LS 0404 / Enh 2000 / Heal 2000 / Pow 0004

So that's TK + LS + FR + KD + heal (yes that last one not in the movies !). Of course ranged and melee def would be low,
(...)


Actually, you can use the +500 defense from Center of Being as long as you unequip your saber, activate CoB, and equip your saber again. The only defense you miss compared to a Def 0040 would be the 500+ Force defense.



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griffstar
Mon Sep 05, 2005 9:16 am
#8






FortunoFiasco wrote:





Eskie wrote:

On another note, if your TK innate armor has a higher rating than your Jedi innate armor, you will use your TK innate armor even if you have an LS equipped. The higher one of the two gets used as long as you dont wear any armor.






Oooooooh that would be so awesome !!!

Because for now I'm conseidering being TKM, LS 0404 and the rest of points in funny skills like in the movies (Force KD the one with the hand I guess, not a LS move, the one they use to KD the battle-droids, etc...) and yes force run IS in the movies too ("Master ! Destroyers !" ep1 Obi-Wan to Qui-gon and then they flee like faster than the roadrunner !).

So an example full template would be : TKM / LS 0404 / Enh 2000 / Heal 2000 / Pow 0004

So that's TK + LS + FR + KD + heal (yes that last one not in the movies !). Of course ranged and melee def would be low, etc... But then that might be a funny template to play, if not powerful, at least a little roleplay.

Oh and thanks for all you guys answers, not just the person I quoted above.




in up and coming patches the ability to use and jedi skill so as powers or enhancer is only usuable with a sabre equiped any other weapon will prevent the use of jedi skills just a thing to keep in mind



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MasterSheep
Mon Sep 05, 2005 9:21 am
#9

i was master weaponsmith - 0404 sabers 4400 enhancer 4000 healer and CL80


also i hit CL 80 at 0404 sabers 2400 enhancer 4000 healer - the equivelent of one mastery in jedi





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