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Thread: Revamp Idea: The Basics, need opinions, feedback, and ideas!
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FarSuperior
Sat Sep 03, 2005 9:32 pm
#1
I have been thinking... while the devs are working on "jedi as a whole" why dont they just give us a revamp? I had an ingenous idea of how to do it... of course the numbers in my mind are probably off and need tweaking and adjusting but ill give the general outline.
Tree #1
JediInitiate (master box)
4 4 4 4
3 333
22 2 2
1 1 1 1
Force Adept (novice box)
Description: This is JUST like pre-9 and pretty self explanatory... these are wat the trees would be...
1) Lightsaber - From the start you would have certs to all three styles of LS.. no more LS "trees" at the top of this tree would be equivilent to 0404.
2) Defense - This tree would give you a small dose of defense. I dont know how much would be given here yet.. (im not defender so its hard to know how much to give to balance it)
3) Force Control - This tree would give you more force than the other trees... so say if the other trees give you +100 +1 this would give +200 +2 (and maybe more) this tree would also include basic force enhancements like channel, maybe force speed, force run, and force armor/sheild stuff like that.
4) Force Powers - This tree includes basic, and non - Light/Dark force powers. Some of these would be like Force knockdown, possibly the old Animal scare/taunt stuff, HEALING (most important) and maybe some other stuff.
Tree #2
Jedi Padawan (master box)
4 4 4 4
3 3 3 3
2 2 2 2
1 1 1 1
Jedi Initiate (dunno if this should have different name cus its a DIFFERENT box than the one above in the first tree) (novice box)
Description: Again... this is very much like Pre-9 and so very self explanatory
1) Lightsaber - this would add more lightsaber skill and mods, bringing you to the level of a Master Lightsaber Wielder
2) Force Defender - this would add more defense mods and skills, bringing you to the level of a Master Force Defender
3) Force Control - Just like the last... this should include added force power, and improved force enhancements... this tree would NOT bring you to the level of a master enhancer but only an enhancer dabbler at this point you would have things like force speed, force run 2, meditate, regular force armor/shield a little beyond the basics
4) Force Powers - This would bring you to the level of a Healer 4000 and a powers dabbler... it still leaves out heavily damaging force power attacks but includes things like force breach, cloak (which is basicaly mind trick), an improved force knock down... etc
SPECIAL NOTE: Novice and Master boxes will give you mods, certs, and specialsas well.
Now after getting up to Padawan you will only use a little over half your skill points... somthing like that you will also have ALL the basic necessities of a jedi exceptional offense (Master Lightsabers), exceptional defense (Master Defender), Standard Healing to keep you alive (healer 4000), Enhancements that every jedi should have, and a few force powers to play around with.
I bet you have noticed that already, without even finishing all your skill points your about the strength of a jedi right now if not stronger... But that is ok. In my system there wil be a couple of things that would happen.
1) Jedi cannot turn special forces
2) In every heavily populated area there is "anti-Jedi" NPCs that are extremely difficult and drop no worth while loot - they attack you if you show your a jedi around them
3) Jedi are able to be ganked by BHs according to their progression in Jedi. Force instance... a jedi from Adept - Initiate would only see 1 BH... but Jedis of higher level could be attacked by 2 jedi at once somthing of that sort to balance it out and not make it so BHs can NEVER win.
4) Because people want pvp... therewill eventually be a Shadow War... and an end game that would allow small ammounts of non-jedi pvp in the FRS... here is the link to this idea
http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/board/message?board.id=jedi&message.id=1172257&view=by_date_ascending&page=1
my revamp idea, and this idea for the FRS would go hand and hand
From Jedi Padawan you can pick up any of the following trees and dabble in them. You need to go up a certain number of trees and spend a certain number of skill points to enter the FRS... just like it was.
-Enhancer Tree-
Master Enhancer
4 4 4 4
3 3 33
2 2 2 2
1 1 1 1
Novice Enhancer
Description: This is a continuation from the "Force Control" trees you were working up.
1) Force Power Max / Max Regen - Gives you a superior force bar, allowing you to last much longer than many other jedi
2)Self Enhancements - better force speed, resist buffs, Regain, Better Force Armor / Shield
3) Anti-Powers / Debuffs - Feedback, Absorb, Sap, Shock
4) Crowd Control- Stasis, Improved roots and snares, etc, Force Run 3
-Force Powers Tree-
Master Powers
4 4 4 4
3 3 3 3
2 2 2 2
1 1 1 1
Novice Powers
Description - Continuation of the force powers tree... half of it giving light powers, and the other half giving dark powers
1)Force Infliction - Force Lightning, Force Strike, Force Hit, Force Throw (maybe if not already given), Mind Blast
2) Force Wound - Choke, Drain LIFE, Force Weaken, etc (these are the more "special" dark powers whereas #1 is more straight up damage dealing attacks)
3) Force Healing - Full Heal, State Heals, Wound heals, Area Heals (focused more on healing pure damage)
4) Force Buffing - Rez (tbh... i dunno wat i wanna do with this)
-Lightsaber Tree-
Lightsaber Form Mastery
4 4 4 4
3 3 3 3
2 2 2 2
1 1 1 1
Lightsaber Form
Description - Each tree gives you a special attack... its much like a buff that puts you in a Lightsaber Form. each form has its strengths and weaknesses, so each tree is chosen according to your playstyle. The higher up the tree you go the more efficient that "buff" is.
1) Higher damage, Reduced Defenses
2) Higher speed, Reduced Accuracy
3) Higher Defense, Reduced damage
4) Higher Accuracy, Reduced Speed
SPECIAL NOTE: The novice and master boxes in this are FREE and contain NOTHING.
thats the BASICS of my revamp idea... of course theres MUCH room for improvment, tweaking, adding, etc... but i want everyones overall opinion on the idea of having a cross between pre-9 and our current.
/discuss
Message Edited by FarSuperior on 09-03-2005 09:36 PM
FarSuperior
Mon Sep 05, 2005 1:06 pm
#5
/bump
wat i most need is ideas... as you can see my ideas are basic and need refining / adding on too
Message Edited by FarSuperior on 09-05-2005 01:06 PM
SoloBacca1
Mon Sep 05, 2005 1:07 pm
#6
Pre-Publish 9 way to be... lol its unbalanced all would have the same skills in the really end....
FarSuperior
Mon Sep 05, 2005 1:09 pm
#7
SoloBacca1 wrote:
Pre-Publish 9 way to be... lol its unbalanced all would have the same skills in the really end....
no everyone would have the basics then when it branches off you will see templates differ
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