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Thread: My run in with bounty hunters post publish 24 [a fine example of why snare stacks need to go]

HardwiredXMan
Thu Oct 20, 2005 1:03 pm
#1

Being that it was your first BH experience, I would just forget about it and think of it as a rare happening. I've been jedi for a year and have only been ganged up on or hunt by more than one BH in one day only 1 time. Sure I lost, but they didn't send hate /tells nor gloat over my corpse. They just DB'd me and left. Since then I haven't been hunted by more than one BH.


Now your situation has you upset do to the way your first encounter went down. it was your first time, so don't judge everything by this one encounter. Now if it continues to happen again or more often than you think it should. Then you may have a point to be concerned about.


Honestly though, I think BH's like to pick on unfinished temps for some reason. My self, all my BH visits were when I was not finished template and I have yet to have a BH come after me since I've been full template. I do quest (just finished secrets of syren act 4) and have fought nothing but krayts, nightsisters, sith, imperial npc's and other npc's. All that vis and no BH has come for me yet.


So in myexperience, I had one situation where I was overwhelmed by more than one BH and since, I've had no issues withthem. NOw maybe I'm lucky because I don't stay in one spot too long, maybe they don't like coming into the kraytgraveyard or to dath due to the risk of thoseplaces....either way, when I can sit down a be logged on for 6 hours and never have a BH visit, something is going on and whatever it is, I'm not complaining. heck, I actually sat in mos eisleystarport for 3 hours the other day and only one BH came near me....but he was asking me to helphim with amark.....I guess he didn't know I was a jedi because I don't wearrobes, don't have my saber equipped unless I'm in battle andI wear a bugged master marksman tag...LOL.....however, he could have be trying to besneaky and draw me into a ambush somewhere. He did ask mewhat level healing I had. I just told him politely that I was just checking my emails and was about to log off.....he didn't attack so It made meno difference....I was ready for him if he did anyway.


Anyway,my point is, don't take it personal. Try to keep cool and don't jump to conclussions. I do however beleive you made a big mistake in attempting to go backto the same starport/terminal more than once. It's always a good practice to retreat to anothercity/outpost/player city anduse anormal shuttle to another planet where you have another ship. That's one thing I do myself. I have 3 ships parkedon 3 different planets at various starports. Ioften switch them around at timesso not to be predictable in my travels. It's just a precaution, but sometimes it just happens that waybecause I do fly different ships in space sometimes, so Ialways have 3 ships ready to go.


I know pub 24 and the snares are bad, but it seems to me that your situation could have been avoided by simply staying away from that starport for a while....make the Bh's earn their kill by chasing you down across every planet....don't go back to them, because obviously they were camping the spot and probably knew you traveled there a lot....it's not hard for 4 BH's to coordinate together when that situation arises.

Wolf24601
Thu Oct 20, 2005 1:14 pm
#2

I'll say up-front that I think pub 24 is utterly idiotic and shows the usual lack of understanding by the dev team with regard to the game, the players, etc. It is a total slap in the face of melee professions.


That being said, I never had any expectation of surviving attacks by four bounty hunters at once. I fought BHs in the beta with the new changes, and they were experienced players who could consistenly beat the Jedi templates I tried due to the snare changes. And these fights were one-on-one.


If you can survive or even almost survive a gank squad of bounty hunters, then that really doesn't support the argument that this patch is bad.


Wolf




Zekk-
Thu Oct 20, 2005 1:19 pm
#3

we told them on TC this was happening, but alas it was ignored. The hate icon needs to be used after it wears off, like with concussion shot, that would fix it perfectly.



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mindspat
Thu Oct 20, 2005 1:22 pm
#4

Bountyhunters are able to pull the same mission on the same Jedi.You can have multiple BHs after you in minutes. It's not hard to do and it doesn't take too much time to do it.


With the current +SNARE+ affecting movement the way it is it's inevitable that Jedi will get a huge push soon.


Oh, and the DEVs lied again. There was NO abliity to stack movement buffs and Debuffs which caused for the allegded need of this nerf. That stacking affect had been removed MONTHS ago!!! Multiple snares did NOT stack and continuisly reduce movement speed.


It really makes one wonder where they get there info from...






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Saxiff
Thu Oct 20, 2005 1:51 pm
#5






mindspat wrote:

Bountyhunters are able to pull the same mission on the same Jedi.You can have multiple BHs after you in minutes. It's not hard to do and it doesn't take too much time to do it.






Yes mutiple BH can pull your mission but not quickly as a team. Thats a myth. Yes it can be done but its very time consuming and takes hours of patience. Of course if you are on real early after server up or extremely late at night its abit easier. Having mutiple BH come calling is mostly just blind luck and timing on their part. Having a team come after you is infintely more difficult to reproduce.



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RebelJonser
Thu Oct 20, 2005 2:02 pm
#6


I do not think this was a planned team effort just bad luck on my part.But it still shows that this snare changemakes for very unbalenced game play i had no chance of fighting or escaping.



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mindspat
Thu Oct 20, 2005 3:08 pm
#7






RebelJonser wrote:


I do not think this was a planned team effort just bad luck on my part.But it still shows that this snare changemakes for very unbalenced game play i had no chance of fighting or escaping.





I agree 100%.


IT also supports the fact that Jedi need to remain in hiding. Heck, my character has a completed template and I'm not I'll play with this mess. It's bad enough that all the timers are bugged rarely work in PvP let alone new functions being created that allow for a new "I Win" button.


As a matter of fact, this is not fun and it is more encouraging to leave this game sooner then later...already cancled one account and this one isn't far behind. I loved this game although it's not fun and borderline unplayable due to failed mechanics and server issues.




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RebelJonser
Fri Oct 21, 2005 12:31 am
#8

Here is my first encounter with bounty hunters post publish 24. I logged in yester day went and got my y-8 mining ship finally big supprise the ship is buged and players cant see out the windows. I sit around in space for a while checking it out killing some time. I then land on tatooine when the planet is done loading i find my self being blasted on by a bh. My very first bh visit might i add. I run out of the starport and in to the dessert,get my buffs up and prepare for a fight.It seemed as if the bh was new to hunting jedi as i had little trouble taking him out at this point i say to my self ok not to bad the snares didnt get me to bad i can handle this.


After the battle i return to the starport to launch my ship and yet another bh attacks so again i take to the dessertbut this time lag is killing me and my timers all but freeze up on me so i decide to run.i escape and go to double back and get to my ship.Upon arriving at the starport i start taking hits again i think wow this guy is quick but not so it is another bh attacking.So i go to run again and catch a snare followed bya parralizing attack.I slow to a crawl and head back in to the dessert.It is at this point the other bh catches up again i now have two bh's on me stacking snares and roots.this goes on for about 5 min before i catch a break and get free with force run.Now just when i think i might be in the clear a swoop pulls up and yet a third bh starts firing on mesnared right away.This gives the other 2 time to catch up from then on it was 15 min's of me crawling through the dessert with 3bh/cm's stacking snares, roots and states on me tell i finally ran out of ham and was db'd.After i was corpsed these guys had the nerve to dance around and pat each other on the back like it was some great feat by the way i have just over half of my skill points in jedi not even close to full temp not to mention my sorry lightsaber I didnt stand a snow balls chance in hell against these guys.


Now please keep in mind this was my first encounter with a bh or with 4 bh's and if this is what this game is headed to forget it.Games are supposed to be fun this is not my idea of fun.Something needs to be done to fix this fast



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CloverRidge
Fri Oct 21, 2005 12:36 am
#9

I would expect anyone that logs on their Jedi toons here in the near future that you probably stand a VERY good chance of getting ganged up on like that since less Jedi will be logging on for the time being.


Even without being snared to death I think it's probably best to lay low for the time being.





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RebelJonser
Fri Oct 21, 2005 12:50 am
#10

I was thinking since i had never had a bh visit and then to recive four of them in 20 mins' i must have been one of the few jedis online at the time.But i have no idea how i got that much vis all of a sudden to warrant that many bh's comming for me that fast.



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Drop off vendor on Rori at 3977 -6367 300m's east of the Rori rebel outpost
CloverRidge
Fri Oct 21, 2005 12:55 am
#11

Yeah my guess is you probably it was increased dramatically after the first encounter. After the first encounter it probably plastered your mission to the front page of the terminal.



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