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Melee def yes because its a melee weapons regardless of its damage type.

PSG's work against ranged energy damage. A thrown saber is ranged energy damage so they work for saber throw.

i hear that psg don't work with saber.haven't tested it myself yet.

odd way to look at melee defence, but, yes melee defence does work vs light sabers - for the purposes of this game there are now 2 types of attacking - melee & ranged - each with thier own defences that are supported (in the most part by defences from their own weapon type also LS excluded).

sadly - or not PSGs now are only used against ranged energy attacks - so no Lightsabers or even powers (not sure on the damage type there mind) or even when LS are thrown

i tried to test it but the guy i was testin it with kept dooin all kindsa things chokin me and such i couldnt get him to coorperate i shoulda incaped him! lol

Powers does force damage, only the force defense mods from Defender or Force shield, Absorb, feedback from
Enhancer can lower force damage.

Lightsaber is a melee weapon so the melee defense of target does apply, PSG's dont work against LS as melee attack
even when thrown i believe. PSG's as far as i've seen only protect against Ranged attacks.

Message Edited by Naeho on 09-13-2005 12:17 PM

PSG's do work against sabers but the dmg nullified by them isn't enough to notice. I myself have tested it, my test subject reported that the dmg reduction was between 5-50% depending on armor stats, no armor, and other such things. Like everything in the game that deals with defenses, it is all based on how much of a particular defense you have already. If you're wearing 8k energy resist armor, your PSG isn't going to resist that much from a saber......while if you aren't wearing armor at all, it will be quite a bit of resistance.

nightsister ENERGY lances are melee

stun batons (that do melee damage) are melee

eleventy billion other energy damage melee weapons are still melee

why not a lightsaber?

oh and as per my testing PSG do NOTHING against sabers, just like they do nothing against other energy damage melee weapons, with the one exception of saber throw...

admitadly i've never actuially tested it, there have been a coulpe of times developers have actually stated PSGs only work against ranged attacks, and energy ones at that.

Powers does force damage, only the force defense mods from Defender or Force shield, Absorb, feedback from
Enhancer can lower force damage.

Lightsaber is a melee weapon so the melee defense of target does apply, PSG's dont work against LS as melee attack
even when thrown i believe. PSG's as far as i've seen only protect against Ranged attacks.
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The individual Powers attacks have seperate damage types. Some do Kinetic, some do energy, some do lightning. Additionaly some such as choke and lightning have what the devs call a pass through for a portion of the damage done by that attack (this would be related to the "Force Damage" modifier a Powers user has in their skill tree). Force Defense is like melee/ranged defense as it effects the hit/miss ratio, and it stacks with an opponents ranged defense. So for Powers attacks it is ranged/force acc ve ranged/force def. As with all other damage calculations if your accuracy is lower than your opponents defense it reduces the damage you do upon scoring a hit, if it is higher it increases the damage you do upon a succesful hit.

Only those ranged attacks powers or otherwise that do energy damage are mitigated by a PSG, and all armor crafted or innate with the appropriate damage mitigation will reduce the non pass through portion of an attack from a Powers user.

A LS does energy damage but it is not mitigated by a PSG because it is a melee profession. Even though Saber Throw is a ranged attack it is counted as a melee attack for hit/miss and PSG mitigation. Ever wonder why it hits so often and for so much even though a Saberist has no Ranged Accuracy?

All of the above is one reason why Powers users have such a low damage output. We have to get through an opponents Ranged Defense, Force Defense, PSG, Innate Armor, Force Armor, Force Shield, and Force Feedback.


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