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Thread: Guide to victory against Bounty Hunter

TK-545
Tue Aug 23, 2005 7:33 am
#1








Table of Contents:


Chapter 1: We are notBH gamecontent, they are our.


Chapter 2: Oh no a BH! *panic state*


Chapter 3:Knowledge is your friend


Chapter 4: Food is your friend


Chapter 5: Terrain is your friend


Chapter 6: Finish the job


Chapter 7: General fighthing tips







CHAPTER 1: We are notBH gamecontent, they are our's.


If you are full template or not, first rule, stop fearing ecounter with bounty hunter. They only initiate a fight, but it is you, who choose where to fight, stop thinking that they have an advantage as they dont. Be always aware that it is like you are overt all the time, would you go afk when overt in middle of enemy shuttleport?


Turn the tide, you are not the one that is hunted, they are, the hunters have become hunted. The first step into victory is right attitude against bounty hunter. The jedi has indeed advantage against BH, jedi should be always prepared to fight, bounty hunter is prepared only for that few minutes of fight.






Path ofDarkness:


Impossible! This ugly worm dares to attack you! He should give up now and prepare to be punished for his actions. He thinks he is a match for you, how foolish. Give yourself to the flame of anger, and direct it at this worthless enity, destroy him, kill him at all costs with extreme prejudice, show no mercy as for you will be shown none. Those who stand in my path will be destroyed.


Path of Light:


I must defend myself against his attacks and try to explain him, that he is doing wrong, and hunting other players is bad. If he wont listen to the words of truth, that it is not the money it counts but life, well do what you must to, try to incapacitate him and spare his life, if he got honor he will quit, if he will keep attacking, well his soul istruly evil, as a jedi,i must defend galaxy against such scums.


after this small morale boost, we can go on, to next chapter of guide.






CHAPTER 2: Oh no a Bounty Hunter!



So what? Are you supposed to go prone on the ground and give up? hell no!You can fight or run, but never panic.


You are suddenly Knocked Down (KD)?Then BH attacks you for sure, calm down, and its time to decide fight or run.



There is nothing wrong in running from afight. You are still alive so you won,(tips for running away in futher part of guide).



If you choose to fight, you also choose the risk, but reward is high, risk is only a xp loss, but reward is bigger then that. Key is knowledge how to deal against certain templates. (also in futher part of guide).


I assume you are still alive so you can read this, congratulations, you should know whats the reward:



You have defeated a Scum Bag that wanted to kill you!


Man it makes you feel good






CHAPTER 3: Knowledge is your friend


Enough of typing words that can only help your morale, time to boost up your PvP skills:


Step 1: Make yourself anonymous, to do this press CTRL+P and look for checkbox in community menu.


Bounty Hunters often use /who, they why we shouldnt use it aswell in dungeons? if you think you are alone in certain area type /who to make sure. However!


I hardly belive that good bounty hunter would catch on this, he should be anonymous aswell, but its a good habit when grinding at new lair to see if you dont have unexpected guests.


Step 2: Expand your radar to at last 256 meters. Also a good habit is having overlay map CTRL+Min wild areas (hard to use in npc city). Often happens that you have approaching dot, appearing on this overlay map FIRST, then on radar, due to lag/connection problems.


Step 3: /target /examine , use it often and it will save you a lot of heart attacks, think, what a buffed guy would do in middle of nowhere? he got master bounty hunter badge? Dont trust him! Keep an eye on him. He lost his advantage of suprise now.


Step 4: Make a trap for a hunter, usenpc to help you.


You got cloak? then cloak and run into some high level (agressive or not type, its your choice) mobs, theres high possiblity he chooses to doarea attack onyou, bad for this BH he is not a smart one, when mobs agrro him quickly prepare yourself and strike with mobs helping you (watch it, that you dont do same mistake).


You got stasis? then do it as counter-attack first, and take your time, prepare to kill him or run.


Also can reconsider force suppression or wave for low skill ones


And another tactic that i remember to use, if you got cloak, do it and call your bike, bounty hunter will think you want to run away and will just destroy it. Ha! He did it? what a fool, now you got first-strike advantage, he is teffed on you for about 2 minutes if i remember maybe more, good tactic is also to just cloak and wait till his buffs will fade or even give some downage effects, (mosty spice).


Step 5: PSG. Get one asap, you dont really need belt with SEAs that make you better, so if you have to have seas in it make it sure they are expandable ones.


As for PSG my suggestions are:


if you got Defender Force Aura in your template get a PSG with not so big Energy resistance, but with maxed to the sky RECHARGE rate, as aura gives insane miss rates to your opponent, your Personal Shield Generator got enough time to recharge.


if you dont have then get a one with high energy resistance and decent recharge rate, but dont rely on it much, use terrain, roots, stasis to give it time to recharge.


Step 6: Low damage saber? Well i cant help you totally with this, as i am master powers and its not a big deal to me, i would suggest having some CL54 no skill needed weapon, i can do same damge with my light laser rifle, as with saber in same amount of time. However with upcoming changes you might be not able to use any force specials during this, you will rely on sitms, and your PSG.


Step: 7 Macros. Hmm hard to say marcos are useful, but can be reason of your death aswell, many times it happened to me when i used them, that damn macro used a skill when i HAD to heal immediately, and suffered cool down timer followed by incap in next few seconds.


Macros you should have:



  • force abilities macros (aura,infusion)

  • knockdown recovery one

  • deathblow one

  • any 1 time usecombos you like, and they seem to work for example Armor Break followed by Head hit

it seems that macros can be useful, but they have disadvantages



  • can screw you when something jumped into queue and you didnt want that

  • having too many macros going on isa bad idea and can cause connection loss or crash or terrible lag.

  • they often in rage of combat looserighttiming in flood of specials spammed, result "why im getting hit so bad? WHAT? where the heck is forceinfusi...*dead*"


Step 8: Knowing a template of your enemy. Another way to victory, if you know what template your enemy got, its small advantage against him.


For example MBH/MCM?


strength: decent damage and great heals


weakness: Mind, its countdown timer to his failure.


its not total "i win button" for bounty hunter, theresa way to stand and laugh while they are trying to hurt you.


Step 9: You know what to do, do you? Have pvp duels on guild hall roofs or other building where bh cant interrupt your fight, learn your specials on npc, think how could you use it and after which skill, you could maximize potential of this skill.


first of all i will explain HAM bar, all who got jedi should know what HAM bar is, but i will remind


health - it gets degraded by: enemy attacks,debuffs,force channeling
action - it gets degraded by: actions you choose,debuffs,state recovery
mind - it gets degraded by: healing,debuffs,state recovery,special actions
force pool - guess...it degrades when you use force actions! suprised?



certain situations you can observe on your enemy ham:


nnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
nnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

nnnnnnnnnnnnnnn


good for you he is dead, well done, and congratulations.


nnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
nnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

nnnnnnnnnnnnnnn


not bad, you survived bounty hunters phase of spamming specials, its time to attack:



  1. Apply Armor Break

  2. Apply Dizzy/Stunned states, can be done by having ls xxx4 or powers x4xx

  3. Knockdown, can be done by ls xxx4, master box saber throw, or force throw.

  4. Rage against lying opponent, if you are fast enough, you can even incap him.

  5. If he gets up, heal up, apply defenses and wait for another occasion.

nnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
nnnnnnnnnnnnnnn
nnnnnnnnnnnnnnn


Outstanding job, it is matter of seconds to kill him, he cant heal now, bounty hunter is a walking corpse . But watch it he got good action regen and still can bite, dont forget that you must heal aswell.


Just to remind that it works in same way for jedi, if your ham gets like that it is not a good sign.


Step 10: You can take a rest during fight. Remember that theres always a way to get out of trouble when running low on action, you can:



  • Cloak and /sit to quickly regain HAM

  • Stasis and do the same.

  • Root with force suppression, if ranged bh, then hide behind a tree/rock whatever and /sit aswell, that 10-15 seconds are just what you need. hide because to sit you must loose agrro and you can do this if bh cant target you and shoot, if bh is mlee, you got job easy, just get out of range.

Step 11: What? where did he come from? i didnt see anyone attacking me. Well my friend, thats why i have, combat log in different box on ingame screen, you can always keep an eye on it, and if someone is attacking me, i usually see that.


For example: "Rick shoots you for 300 dmg" - notify that are you hunting bols/pickets. You found any bol, picket named rick? no? then quickly press TAB key and look betweentargets for this guy, and teach him a lesson.


Step 12: NEVER underestimate your opponent, i have asimple rule, if its the best pvper or not, i always use biggestgun i got,


"shoot a mouse, with a gun for elephants"


if you got killed, remember that it is YOUR fault, that you got killed, not bounty hunter's, and there are no excuses like lag/afk, your fault, you forgot something, didnt play it right, analyse your fight, ask for rematch with bh, LEARN!


"making a mistake is not a problem, not learining from it IS"




Message Edited by TK-545 on 08-24-200501:11 AM - updated new ways to find out that bh is attacking you

Message Edited by TK-545 on 08-24-200501:27 AM

Message Edited by TK-545 on 08-24-2005 01:28 AM



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Imperial_Reb
Tue Aug 23, 2005 7:42 am
#2

very nice! well done. very helpfull

I say we sticky it
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Jakkarus
Tue Aug 23, 2005 7:47 am
#3

Thank you so much for this guide and I'm printing a copy right now! As a week old baby Jedi this will help me out a great deal.




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sidlicious
Tue Aug 23, 2005 7:56 am
#4

Great guide man



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Arcturius
Tue Aug 23, 2005 7:56 am
#5

/applaud
FarSuperior
Tue Aug 23, 2005 7:58 am
#6

excellent post



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Yep, i turned to the dark side. =P
Zarqon
Tue Aug 23, 2005 8:18 am
#7

nice guide, noted some things though, like your clickies don't seem to be in yet.


also, when it comes to food it might be very nice to include some good combos that can acutally be used simultaneously. You can for example not use caf and wafers at the same time because both go to health.


also, water is good not only for regeneration, but also to put out fires




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JediMaster888
Tue Aug 23, 2005 8:27 am
#8

Great post! Very informative.



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TK-545
Tue Aug 23, 2005 8:35 am
#9

fixed clickies, totally forgot about them



___Imperial Col. Kelm Dirrof______________
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Dark Master Force Wielder - TC (Rip)eXile (Rip)
Unlocked Dec 2004, non FRS. Dying breed.
AMMU-NATION -
Whooping rebels since 1978!
Esrysa Dirrof - Ammunition Dealer, soon grand opening.
Ceasa'r ~ Commando of the Imperial Army



TheXaero
Tue Aug 23, 2005 8:42 am
#10


Great guide TK-545, they should sticky this for all jedi to read about whether their baby jedi or full temped.
tamer_bourne
Tue Aug 23, 2005 8:48 am
#11

Uh, good guide... if only for newbies and kashyyyk jedi around. You are wrong about the mind though that when a bh gets his/her mind low its only a matter of time, the same way a jedi can run a bh/cm can paralyze/electro and kite for a few instants enough to regen mind. Or even run and sit for a few seconds if the jedi has no force run.






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Nihuacatelco
Tue Aug 23, 2005 8:57 am
#12

good job, deserves to be stickied



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kudil
Tue Aug 23, 2005 9:03 am
#13

Very good thread. especially the food bit.
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