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Thread: Tuning guide: What to look for
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ahood
Mon Oct 10, 2005 7:34 am
#1
At the moment, people say tune and hope for damage. This is wise considering the current speed bug not capturing the speed mod on crystals/pearls. However, here are some scary stats for Jedi tuning (and applies once the current bug is fixed - if you want to be good when the bug is fixed - pay attention!)
Assuming you have a saber of about 150-250 damage and about 3.3ish base speed - just approximate values, then the following apply:
Each -0.1 speed modifier is equivalent to 25-30 damage in terms of your Jedi DPS. Thats right, the 70 damage -0.29speed tune is WAY better than any 0.0 speed tune - the pearl would have to be 150 damage to be equivalent - clearly not possible.
Speed will be the main stat of your crystals/pearls and getting -0.25 or better will be key, damage as long as over 70ish will be 3rd to go for (or 2nd in short PvP fight.
Hitting faster burns more force, so while DPS is higher from a top speed tune, so is force consumption - but by how much? For each -0.2 speed difference between two options, you will need -3FC difference to have the same force consumption per second.
You can now see that if you had to pick 2 modifiers on your tunes to be "uber" then speed and FC are the ones to go for if you want the better sustainable DPS. High damage but low speed/FC is the "poor mans" option
You can plot all the stuff out yourself if you wish to confirm the data, but the 3D plot I have is quite an eye opener.
As if you need more, increasing your pearl by 10 damage increases your DPS by about 1.5%. However, increasing your speed tunes by -0.1 increases your DPS by about 4-5%.
However, dont think that this is an easy win. The tuning distribution of stats is the same profile for damage, speed and FC, so getting a top end speed tune is just as hard as a top end damage tune, about 1.5-3% chance per fair/good item.
Given you have about a 0.02% chance of getting a top end Speed AND FC tune, you may be forced to have just damage or hybrid tunes.
Wanna be depressed? Then realise that once the speed bug is fixed then those with high (110+) damage tunes AND high speed (-0.27 or better per tune) will have 80%+ higher DPS than those who have weak speed tunes even if they have all 110+ damage tunes. So dont hope to compete :-P
Ajee
Mon Oct 10, 2005 7:36 am
#2
/agree
but then again - it would require the Devs to fix the speed bug..... I wont hold my hopes up for the moment.
Good post though
Styreta
Mon Oct 10, 2005 7:40 am
#3
Wich speed bug you refering to, the LS/Gen Melee mods not working, LS crystals screwing up or the whole iffy cooldown situation?....
Either way I dont see how fixing any of the above would not effect everyone
VickeVire
Mon Oct 10, 2005 7:44 am
#4
as I see it the CA mods not working and cooldown bug are the same. as long as the saber attacks at base speed no CAs will work
GunFu
Mon Oct 10, 2005 8:38 am
#5
The best Ive gotten on a power crystals is 52 dmg and -6 force. The best Ive gotten on a pearl is 88 dmg and -7 force. Just hope I can keep up with those pre 9 jedi with the quality pearls and such.
Aalob Alarios
eternalfool
Mon Oct 10, 2005 9:51 am
#6
GunFu wrote:
The best Ive gotten on a power crystals is 52 dmg and -6 force. The best Ive gotten on a pearl is 88 dmg and -7 force. Just hope I can keep up with those pre 9 jedi with the quality pearls and such.
You cant.
Darius501
Mon Oct 10, 2005 10:02 am
#7
BTW the information you bring to light is good for our community. Nice to see we still have constructive post in this form
Hulke
Mon Oct 10, 2005 10:04 am
#8
All I can say is hopefully prem's will drop again!
Message Edited by Hulke on 10-10-2005 10:05 AM
Vaashtkk
Mon Oct 10, 2005 11:01 am
#9
*Logs in to see if the mediocre saber will get better or worse...*
Artimities
Mon Oct 10, 2005 11:05 am
#10
i got a near perfect tune on a flawless pearl the other day, and 10 seconds later on another flawless i hit a tune of 116 ... so clearly you still have a chance of a crappy tune.. but if flawless has hit for 100% so far in my books.
now premiums.. i saw a drop, and even got a 55. that sucks... lol
EvilAztec
Mon Oct 10, 2005 11:14 am
#12
Yeah, I'm trying not to be cynical, but I'm not holding my breath either...
(4+ months, come one Devs! Fix pearls/crystals and LS speed mods)
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