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Thread: Curious about Melee and Ranged Defense...

RosaShyanne
Mon Sep 26, 2005 2:17 pm
#1

Ok, I read the stickied post which tests food, and we got a post about a week ago confirming some fears of mine. So, anyone that has tested the defense mods and got confirmation on how this works, I'd love your input. Anyone with "theories" of how this works, please just sign you want confirmation as well. Stating what you "believe" will only keep the rest of us in the dark as to actual in-game findings. Thx.


My question is this, if I havea melee defense of 150 and a ranged defense of 200, during the times I have a LS equipped in combat, is my defense vs a rifle 150 or 200? I'm trying to determine if the modifiers listed are my def vs such attacks, or if these mods are my defense while using this type of combat.


The answers to this alter my shopping habits and use of sockets in my clothing. I don't want to buy up a +25 ranged defense to help vs the MBH if that mod only affects combat during the times I equip a rifle, pistol, carbine, or use Powers. I'm MLS =-)


Thanks for any help you can provide in clear this issue for me.



---Rosa, Jedi
Sidalo
Mon Sep 26, 2005 2:19 pm
#2






RosaShyanne wrote:

Ok, I read the stickied post which tests food, and we got a post about a week ago confirming some fears of mine. So, anyone that has tested the defense mods and got confirmation on how this works, I'd love your input. Anyone with "theories" of how this works, please just sign you want confirmation as well. Stating what you "believe" will only keep the rest of us in the dark as to actual in-game findings. Thx.


My question is this, if I havea melee defense of 150 and a ranged defense of 200, during the times I have a LS equipped in combat, is my defense vs a rifle 150 or 200? I'm trying to determine if the modifiers listed are my def vs such attacks, or if these mods are my defense while using this type of combat. 150


The answers to this alter my shopping habits and use of sockets in my clothing. I don't want to buy up a +25 ranged defense to help vs the MBH if that mod only affects combat during the times I equip a rifle, pistol, carbine, or use Powers. I'm MLS =-)


Thanks for any help you can provide in clear this issue for me.





The answer currently is 150. This is not expected and has to be a bug.


Expect it to get fixed sometime in the future.





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RosaShyanne
Mon Sep 26, 2005 2:23 pm
#3






Sidalo wrote:





RosaShyanne wrote:

Ok, I read the stickied post which tests food, and we got a post about a week ago confirming some fears of mine. So, anyone that has tested the defense mods and got confirmation on how this works, I'd love your input. Anyone with "theories" of how this works, please just sign you want confirmation as well. Stating what you "believe" will only keep the rest of us in the dark as to actual in-game findings. Thx.


My question is this, if I havea melee defense of 150 and a ranged defense of 200, during the times I have a LS equipped in combat, is my defense vs a rifle 150 or 200? I'm trying to determine if the modifiers listed are my def vs such attacks, or if these mods are my defense while using this type of combat. 150


The answers to this alter my shopping habits and use of sockets in my clothing. I don't want to buy up a +25 ranged defense to help vs the MBH if that mod only affects combat during the times I equip a rifle, pistol, carbine, or use Powers. I'm MLS =-)


Thanks for any help you can provide in clear this issue for me.





The answer currently is 150. This is not expected and has to be a bug.


Expect it to get fixed sometime in the future.







So your answer leads me to believe that I should purchase +25 ranged defense and have room for the sockets, only prioritize these purchases after my melee defense mods.



---Rosa, Jedi
Sidalo
Mon Sep 26, 2005 2:26 pm
#4

I would cap mods in this order:


general Melee speed


general melee accuracy


LS specific speed


LS specific accuracy


force regen


Melee Defense


Ranged Defense


Terrain Negotiation


However if you are gonna cap these, then most likely you are not wearing your robe. And if you are not wearing your robe you can cap the MD, RD and TN in BE clothes.





Sidalo Yalew - Sith Apprentice
Renamed - Master Merchant

All Accounts Cancelled by NGE
mcpryon
Mon Sep 26, 2005 2:45 pm
#5

Are we even sure now what ranged and melee defense mean? I thought I read a post of test results that led to the conclusion that ranged defense might actually only apply when you are holding a ranged weapon, as opposed to defense vs a ranged weapon. Of course, no developer input 'cause god help them if they actually have to go on the record about something in this borked a game.

Message Edited by mcpryon on 09-26-2005 04:46 PM





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RosaShyanne
Mon Sep 26, 2005 7:49 pm
#6






mcpryon wrote:
Are we even sure now what ranged and melee defense mean? I thought I read a post of test results that led to the conclusion that ranged defense might actually only apply when you are holding a ranged weapon, as opposed to defense vs a ranged weapon. Of course, no developer input 'cause god help them if they actually have to go on the record about something in this borked a game.

Message Edited by mcpryon on 09-26-2005 04:46 PM





This is why I am asking... I've read too much that support both and don't know which is true.





---Rosa, Jedi
DocSavag
Mon Sep 26, 2005 7:54 pm
#7



RosaShyanne wrote:


mcpryon wrote:
Are we even sure now what ranged and melee defense mean? I thought I read a post of test results that led to the conclusion that ranged defense might actually only apply when you are holding a ranged weapon, as opposed to defense vs a ranged weapon. Of course, no developer input 'cause god help them if they actually have to go on the record about something in this borked a game.

Message Edited by mcpryon on 09-26-2005 04:46 PM



This is why I am asking... I've read too much that support both and don't know which is true.






There were several tests in the original thread that support the theory that currently the mods are working as defense WITH instead of defense against. So the mod that is working is based on your weapon not the opponents weapons. The only question seems to be if this is a bug. It seems likely that it is but who knows.



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