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Thread: Torm Between Temps
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dcrawfinski
Mon Sep 26, 2005 6:55 pm
#1
Original Template - M Enhancer, LS 0404, P 0400, H 4000, D 0040
Cloak has always been a little buggy, but I still liked it. Now that it is getting hit with the nerf stick I decided to make my change early.
YES, I will list which temps I am considering. I am doing this more for information about the specific trees in certain cases. I do not care what is the BEST temp because I know it does not matter as much as my ability to play it. Besides, my choices are probably not considered all that uber to begin with, I know that off the blocks.
Other useful information about my character to consider in your opinions. I have FS melee speed and accuracy. I am not dropping M Enhancer (I will regrind, but not 2 whole professions). Feel free to ask any other questions that might help.
Unless I get jumped by a BH, I will not be doing much solo PvP or PvE. I am a support person, team player, however you say it.
FYI - 2H LS - 624max, 95sac, 29fc, 1.83modspeed ((I do not know any of the game calculations for dmg...if you have a link to the formulas PLEASE let me know)).
M Enhancer, M LS, H 4040
1. If I continue on and Master LS will it really help my speed and accuracy any? I have heard people say that they do not notice any difference in LS speed with LS 0404 and MLS IF they have the FS melee speed. ADD Force Speed 2 into that equation. Will I see any benefit from MLS?
2. Does Sap help YOU in PvE, PvP? Personal question. Do you notice a difference? How much regen does this actually affect?
3. How would the lack of Aura affect me defensively? Is Force Armor enough to Defend myself in "normal" group play? (I do not generally tank).
M Enhancer LS 0404, H 4040, D (0144, 2340, 1440, 4140, or any other defender combination)
1. In my old age I have learned that I need to take more notice of my Force bar. One of the reasons I like the double master temp above is that my Force bar will grow ALOT, and other than attacks and feedback/absorb looping macros, there will not AS MUCH of a drain on my Force. Would THIS temp kill my Force Bar? I am currently 0042 on defender and with Aura and Valor running w/ saber attacks and heals my force drains FAST? Would this give me enough Force vs Force used to be functional? I know that without the Force I am dead.
2. ((Calculations guys heads up)). How much dmg does innate armor actually stop? How much dmg does Force Armor stop (or how much "innate" armor does it provide)? How well does Force Armor stack with defender armor? What are the calculations for figuring out what exactly defensive mods do? (example: my melee def is +149 vs someone hitting me who has +149 acc or +250 acc). All I know is that more is probably better. WOULD not having much def mods hurt?
I am cutting this off here. Thanks for reading. Thanks for responding. I tried to break this up into enough paragraphs to maintain attention spans. ANY and ALL suggestions are welcome. Let me know from your experiences or from examples of friends.
P.S. I had also tossed around some of the following - just pure speculation though.
M Enhancer, M Healer, LS 0404
M Enhancer, M Defender, LS 0404 (I know...no heals)
M Enhancer, M Powers, LS 0404 (just to be nutty)
Thanks again
Cloak has always been a little buggy, but I still liked it. Now that it is getting hit with the nerf stick I decided to make my change early.
YES, I will list which temps I am considering. I am doing this more for information about the specific trees in certain cases. I do not care what is the BEST temp because I know it does not matter as much as my ability to play it. Besides, my choices are probably not considered all that uber to begin with, I know that off the blocks.
Other useful information about my character to consider in your opinions. I have FS melee speed and accuracy. I am not dropping M Enhancer (I will regrind, but not 2 whole professions). Feel free to ask any other questions that might help.
Unless I get jumped by a BH, I will not be doing much solo PvP or PvE. I am a support person, team player, however you say it.
FYI - 2H LS - 624max, 95sac, 29fc, 1.83modspeed ((I do not know any of the game calculations for dmg...if you have a link to the formulas PLEASE let me know)).
M Enhancer, M LS, H 4040
1. If I continue on and Master LS will it really help my speed and accuracy any? I have heard people say that they do not notice any difference in LS speed with LS 0404 and MLS IF they have the FS melee speed. ADD Force Speed 2 into that equation. Will I see any benefit from MLS?
2. Does Sap help YOU in PvE, PvP? Personal question. Do you notice a difference? How much regen does this actually affect?
3. How would the lack of Aura affect me defensively? Is Force Armor enough to Defend myself in "normal" group play? (I do not generally tank).
M Enhancer LS 0404, H 4040, D (0144, 2340, 1440, 4140, or any other defender combination)
1. In my old age I have learned that I need to take more notice of my Force bar. One of the reasons I like the double master temp above is that my Force bar will grow ALOT, and other than attacks and feedback/absorb looping macros, there will not AS MUCH of a drain on my Force. Would THIS temp kill my Force Bar? I am currently 0042 on defender and with Aura and Valor running w/ saber attacks and heals my force drains FAST? Would this give me enough Force vs Force used to be functional? I know that without the Force I am dead.
2. ((Calculations guys heads up)). How much dmg does innate armor actually stop? How much dmg does Force Armor stop (or how much "innate" armor does it provide)? How well does Force Armor stack with defender armor? What are the calculations for figuring out what exactly defensive mods do? (example: my melee def is +149 vs someone hitting me who has +149 acc or +250 acc). All I know is that more is probably better. WOULD not having much def mods hurt?
I am cutting this off here. Thanks for reading. Thanks for responding. I tried to break this up into enough paragraphs to maintain attention spans. ANY and ALL suggestions are welcome. Let me know from your experiences or from examples of friends.
P.S. I had also tossed around some of the following - just pure speculation though.
M Enhancer, M Healer, LS 0404
M Enhancer, M Defender, LS 0404 (I know...no heals)
M Enhancer, M Powers, LS 0404 (just to be nutty)
Thanks again
dcrawfinski
Mon Sep 26, 2005 6:57 pm
#2
Apologies....said that I timed out or something so I thought i need to repost.
jobothehobbit
Mon Sep 26, 2005 9:03 pm
#3
The reason people don't see a difference with LS speed at 0404 vs mls is it is currently broken. It is on the top of the jedi forum pages, no eta on a fix. But once it gets fixed your saber will work at the lower 1.83 speed vs what it is doing now which is teh base speed.
joe
dcrawfinski
Mon Sep 26, 2005 9:37 pm
#4
So, when/if it ever gets fixed it will be worth it. That is good to know. I am already kind of leaning toward the MLS temp anyway. I just wanted to see what peoples' opinions were and if my questions were valid.
Thanks Joe
Thanks Joe
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