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blackoutdustin

Tue Sep 13, 2005 9:51 am

anyone here like this template? i think it would be fun to walk around with no robe, no lightsaber, no jedi tag. i would call ita sleeper template. a ranged jedi would be really nice, and fun i think.

anyone got experience with this?

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Caino

Tue Sep 13, 2005 10:18 am

#2

with Mpower and no channel, u won't last1 minute in pvp

that also means that u won't enjoy improved sap too often

that also means that u won't kill anyone

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RoundWallKing

Tue Sep 13, 2005 10:19 am

#3

Its called master suck. Without a saber your gonna die! You might kill a few nubs but your gonna get /pwned by PvPers.

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WCjtace

Tue Sep 13, 2005 10:23 am

#4

Caino wrote:

with Mpower and no channel, u won't last1 minute in pvp

that also means that u won't enjoy improved sap too often

that also means that u won't kill anyone

Bullsh#t

While I agree that Master Enhancer is a better compliment to Master Powers, you don't need channel to pvp. I used to have it and I never once really needed it in pvp. By the time I'm out of force, the battle is over, usually before I"m even half out of force. Damage output will be a little difficult for sure, Powers just doesn't do great with that. Channel is nice yeah, but not in any way a neccesity, I almost always have a buddy around to recharge me in group pvp, and that's not a solo template for sure.

lovisa

Tue Sep 13, 2005 10:28 am

#5

i think it sound very nice actually but as many say you be better of with enhancer instead of MDEF becourse power is not made to be in front line . so with FR3 you can run out of battle and recharge your self and not the least you get force speed 2 aswell

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eternalfool

Tue Sep 13, 2005 11:04 am

#6

IMO a bit more dabbling would do youa lot of favours. Powers and Defender can work very well together, but as a double mastery they lack the same 'ooompf' of mls mdef, you cant tank as well without dervish e.t.c. its just not as good.

However dabbling in defender as you would with LS is very effective Id sugest something more along the lines of:

MP
DEF 4x4x
ENH 4xx4
H 41xx

Or possibly, if you like a lot of defender:

MP
DEF 444x (or any three trees basically, i think xxx4 is of least use with no innate saber block however)
ENH 3xx2
H 4xxx

I just dont view DEF and P as complementary double masteries.

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Caino

Wed Sep 14, 2005 10:10 am

#7

WCjtace wrote:

Caino wrote:

with Mpower and no channel, u won't last1 minute in pvp

that also means that u won't enjoy improved sap too often

that also means that u won't kill anyone

Bullsh#t

While I agree that Master Enhancer is a better compliment to Master Powers, you don't need channel to pvp. I used to have it and I never once really needed it in pvp. By the time I'm out of force, the battle is over, usually before I"m even half out of force. Damage output will be a little difficult for sure, Powers just doesn't do great with that. Channel is nice yeah, but not in any way a neccesity, I almost always have a buddy around to recharge me in group pvp, and that's not a solo template for sure.

Bullsh#t

you have been MEnhancer but u have never been Mpower.

You will never win a 1 vs 1 fight with any jedi with that template as ur damage output is crap and u don't have stasis, root, force speed,channel and drain force

You will never been as effective as a Mpower MEhnancer inmass pvp as u don't have channel, root,force speedand stasis

You will never be able to run away from bad situations with that template as u cannot climb on swoop while cloaked and u don't have force run,even a dancer will be quicker then you

And you won't be too difficult to kill, as u will finish ur force soon

Message Edited by Caino on 09-14-2005 10:11 AM

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huttu

Wed Sep 14, 2005 10:19 am

#8

very nice I would suggest to get less healer and channel

the template would be very good against non jedi

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WCjtace

Wed Sep 14, 2005 10:27 am

#9

Caino wrote:

WCjtace wrote:

Caino wrote:

with Mpower and no channel, u won't last1 minute in pvp

that also means that u won't enjoy improved sap too often

that also means that u won't kill anyone

Bullsh#t

While I agree that Master Enhancer is a better compliment to Master Powers, you don't need channel to pvp. I used to have it and I never once really needed it in pvp. By the time I'm out of force, the battle is over, usually before I"m even half out of force. Damage output will be a little difficult for sure, Powers just doesn't do great with that. Channel is nice yeah, but not in any way a neccesity, I almost always have a buddy around to recharge me in group pvp, and that's not a solo template for sure.

Bullsh#t

you have been MEnhancer but u have never been Mpower.

You will never win a 1 vs 1 fight with any jedi with that template as ur damage output is crap and u don't have stasis, root, force speed,channel and drain force

You will never been as effective as a Mpower MEhnancer inmass pvp as u don't have channel, root,force speedand stasis

You will never be able to run away from bad situations with that template as u cannot climb on swoop while cloaked and u don't have force run,even a dancer will be quicker then you

And you won't be too difficult to kill, as u will finish ur force soon

Message Edited by Caino on 09-14-2005 10:11 AM

Why exactly did you quote me again? I said that I think MEhancer is a better complement to MPW then MDef is. BTW, I am Master Powers. MLS/MPW/4040 Healer to be exact. My only point in my original post was that it's wrong to think you need channel in pvp. Don't alter your template because you think you can't do without it. Channell is mainly usefull for pve stuff.

Please reread my original post before pulling out the flamer over something I never said.

I even agreed with you in it!

Caino

Wed Sep 14, 2005 10:58 am

#10

WCjtace wrote:

Please reread my original post before pulling out the flamer over something I never said. I even agreed with you in it!

well, sorry for that

anyway,in my first answer i maybe simplified too much the answer talking just about channel, but the fact is that i see too many holes in that template, and channel is the first i thought about.

In my experience ehn is the best complement of mpower ( as u say too ), and imho the more u weaken ur ehnancer skill the worst u will do with a mpower template, with the only exception of MLS MP templates.

Honestly, i don't see any use for that template, as it has a very low dps and no tricky tools (root,stasis,etcetc ). Ur escape abilities will be severely compromised too, and u will never get those 20m from ur enemy that allow you to use cloak.

Turning back to channel, well i use it mostly in pvp, as my fights tend to be long ( due to my low damage output, i aim to last more then my enemy, instead of directly trying to kill him/her ). A glass cannon template( ur actual template)can fulfill this lack with its incredible damage output,but u won't. I would say that u will have many problems also with several non jedi template.

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WCjtace

Wed Sep 14, 2005 11:04 am

#11

Yeah, I'm just not sure that MPW and MDEF are of much use together.

I don't deny channel is usefull, but I wouldn't change a template that someone wanted just to include it. Most of the pvp fights I'm in usually end before I'm geting low of force. That said, dueling is different in duration and can last a lot longer. I've never really seen a good use for channel during a fight, more after a fight to reduce down time. Hence I'd not recommend centering a pvp template around the use of channel if you got something else you'd like to have.

Message Edited by WCjtace on 09-14-2005 01:04 PM

CrashNgoBoom

Wed Sep 14, 2005 11:11 am

#12

Well, I'm MDef, MLS, 4-0-4-0 Healer. This templet works extremely well in PvP. I am never short on force, even in the huge battles. However, MDef is ment as a super tank. You can only take a beating for so long without dishing some back or dying. Having the high-damage output of sabers is what actually allows me to "win" my fights. With the zip timers and lack of alternating attacks, powers NEEDS to have some enhancer to do much. Plus enhancer is another crowd control templet filling in the gaps that powers leaves open.

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Caino

Wed Sep 14, 2005 11:22 am

#13

Well, so it looks like we all say the same thing: the suggested template do needs some changes.

With or without channel or other ehn or ls skills is up to what u want to do with ur jedi,that's all

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