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Thread: Short macros versus single-keyed commands?

Atobe
Tue Sep 06, 2005 1:55 pm
#1



Hi All,


As I get further into the progression of my template, I am, as I'm sure many of you have, quickly running out of toolbar keys to hold all the combat moves and abilities I have available. For day-to-day grinding this isn't much of an issue, but thinking ahead, I can see myself losing a fight simply because I'm wasting time flipping between toolbar panes, trying to get to the appropriate move.


My finished template will include Master Powers and LS x4x4, so I'm going to easily fill up a single toolbar, let alone other commands I'll get from Enhancer 34x2.


Now, I generally have my saber moves on the top row of the toolbar, and my powers abilities on the second row. And things where I don't even want to be looking at the function key row on my keyboard, like force heal and KD recovery, I already have hotkeyed to the numpad-insert and numpad-enter keys, respectively. But there are more moves and abilities to consider.


Which brings me to my primary question: do you find it more effective to:


A) Find room on a couple of toolbars for your moves and switch between them? Or,

B) Code short non-looping macros with your favorite combos and have those hotkeyed? Or,

C) Some combination of the two? Or,

D) Something entirely different?

I look forward to your insightful comments!


Thanks!



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LauKe
Tue Sep 06, 2005 1:58 pm
#2

I managed to set almost everything on hotkeys and on the toolbar, when i fight, i dont even use my mouse anymore, my attacks come seccond nature (took about 10 mins of hardcore memorization). My toolbar has foods, drinks, holo, ext. not my attacks/heals. I'm an extreemly fast typist so I have an advantage though.



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Tue Sep 06, 2005 1:59 pm
#3

I just run macros, if one gets skipped then I'll just quickly go to my macro toolbar and press it again. When I find a nice stopping point (hopefully soon after) I'll /dump my macros and restart them. Thats most effective for me,
GoldnGT
Tue Sep 06, 2005 2:32 pm
#4

I'm assuming you've already doubled your toolbar to two rows.. if not.. then you need to pull it down to get your second row.

This is also a question i've been asking myself b/c I have a few commands i wish i could do quicker... but don't have room for them. I think i'm going to remap my keypad to be hotkeys for mine.. just gotta do it. =o)



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super_moomoo
Tue Sep 06, 2005 2:41 pm
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i got rid of the stuff you really dont need on the toolbar. like stand and burst run. i made a short macro with /burstrun and /stand and hotkeyed them to the keypad (yeah i know oculd of done with out the macro but whateevr you can do it however you want) and i also simplified some. such as i took meditate off the toolbar and made a macro with /sit; /puase .1;
/forcem; so one button meditate instead of pressiing myultiple buttons so basically simplfy everythign down except the attacks. I moved Froce armor/shield/ all enhancer crap to toolbar 2 and switch between 1 and 2 (since you dont need to use these very often)my food is on toolbar 2 and in order i normally eat. ie my pvp foods are lined up so all i ahve to do is press F1-F7 and pvp is the bottom row it helps ekep my main toolbar down to actually stuff i need to use often



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Katalisha
Tue Sep 06, 2005 2:46 pm
#6

I use a combination of the two. I have my major combat abilities on pane 1, my food, clothes and sabers on pane 2 and my long duration enhancer buffs, non combat abilities etc. on pane 6.


Then I have my most important functions macro hotkeyed - for instance forceheal self bound to the esc key, knockdown recovery bound to tilde, dump macros bound to insert etc...





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wintersNight
Tue Sep 06, 2005 5:15 pm
#7

Hi Atobe,


what I do is put a"Panic" button on my 2nd row. this jumps to toolpane 02 and uses all the food i have prepared for a fight (if i'm grinding or pve i replace the first with ranged food for bh instead of melee food for jedi pvp)


that button jumps to toolpane two uses all the food I have set up, then jumps back to my current f-keys on toolpane 01. I never use combat macros - not enough control in pvp.



I use key maps to the Esc key and the tilda key and the 1 and 2.


Just to let you know I don't use the wasd systme but rather the mouse right click system


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sanct_squadleader
Tue Sep 06, 2005 5:29 pm
#8


im also master powers with a bit of sabers, I have all my powers moves in toolbar 1, all my saber specials in toolbar 2, and i combine them with only the nesseccary (spelling?) pvp specials on toolbar 3. and foods on the next toolbar.


So i would recomend making one toolbar thats pvp specific and only has the moves that are most needed or that you use most for pvp.


personally im not a fan of macros for pvp, they can make you miss a heal and stuff like that so i wouldnt use macros


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Hulke
Tue Sep 06, 2005 5:51 pm
#9


Ill use macros for force aura and valor sometimes when Im grinding. As long as Im not using a macro to attack then they work fine, as they are added to the queue. If I am using an attack macro I find that adding the line /clearqueue; to my aura and valor macros helps make sure they actually go off instead of being skipped because my attack macro starts using attack commands removing them from the queue.


I have found that due to lag, and issues with the combat queue that shorter macros even if you are running more of them seem to work better if you have the right code in them.
ArranSound
Tue Sep 06, 2005 5:52 pm
#10


You can also use your numerical keypad, by binding functions to it.



Sorry, just read that you were doing that already.

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Electrichazard
Tue Sep 06, 2005 6:01 pm
#11






Hulke wrote:


Ill use macros for force aura and valor sometimes when Im grinding. As long as Im not using a macro to attack then they work fine, as they are added to the queue. If I am using an attack macro I find that adding the line /clearqueue; to my aura and valor macros helps make sure they actually go off instead of being skipped because my attack macro starts using attack commands removing them from the queue.


I have found that due to lag, and issues with the combat queue that shorter macros even if you are running more of them seem to work better if you have the right code in them.






Hmmm, good idea. I'll have to add this in.


I use pretty much all of the above. Hotkeys, a few simple combos that I always use (2-3 combos) on my toolbar with individual attacks and using alternate panes for foods and long lasting commands.


*edited As a side note, I also use my mouse to assist with this.I have a four button mouse and assigned the other two buttons for tasks.

Message Edited by Electrichazard on 09-06-2005 09:04 PM



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Flyinion
Tue Sep 06, 2005 6:16 pm
#12

wow that /clearqueue command is a great idea. I was wondering what happened to the old /ui action clearcombatqueue (something like that) command. I'm going to be adding this in to my "/forceheal self"macro and making a new macro for just /forceheal to heal targets. I usually end up doing a lot of healing to the tank in my guild's aoe grinding groups and sometimes after that healing myself when I end up drawing the aggro for throwing the heal. Lately with the laggy planets my heals have been getting eaten and I had resorted to turning off auto-attack. Then I forget to keep hitting an aoe once in a while so I lose out on xp lol. This would fix that though.



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