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Thread: avoid incap need help?!?
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StrayS8
Mon Oct 03, 2005 6:10 pm
#1
AI as we know it has a short timer...i think it should be like cloak the more ppl hitting u the faster u lose ur force, not a 25 sectimer and 1k force cost peruse,when statis uses nothing as for fc and last 40 sec or so ,doesnt seem fair. not calling for a nerf just to get AI up to par...healer needs alot of help but mdef gets no love at all. we have 3abiltys and all that defefense does nothing like it should (reduce damage taken). those who choose mdef gotit so we could be a great tank butall a mdef has is AI and vs a mhen all he has to do is get negative ham on the mdef and statis andthen def is dead! seem fair? na didnt think so. just my idea.
just give us your feedback on AI and how it could be made better.
impstalker
Mon Oct 03, 2005 6:17 pm
#2
oops read it wrong i thought you was anti-defneder, I think snare should be removed and there should be no force cost at all for anything a jedi does 
Message Edited by impstalker on 10-03-200506:24 PM
Message Edited by impstalker on 10-03-2005 06:24 PM
TrueGunner
Mon Oct 03, 2005 6:25 pm
#3
just leave defender alone...stop talking about us, and let us play the damn game...
its bad enough everyone had to jump to master defender for a couple weeks and get AI a nice snare on it, now you want me to run into a battle and waste my force in a second using AI...
let defenders go to the back of the bus so we can be the gimps again, it was more fun then when people thought we sucked...
leave us alone 
StrayS8
Mon Oct 03, 2005 6:39 pm
#4
umm ur missing the point lol i have been a mdef since i got jediover a year..i want it to be usefull in pvp again
impstalker
Mon Oct 03, 2005 6:50 pm
#5
if your not useful now you never will be, there are nothing but massive gank squads on both sides. A defender is made to tank that means you go to the front line ai and take the dmg while your buddys beat the hell out of whoever you target 
Drazharr
Mon Oct 03, 2005 8:36 pm
#6
impstalker wrote:
if your not useful now you never will be, there are nothing but massive gank squads on both sides. A defender is made to tank that means you go to the front line ai and take the dmg while your buddys beat the hell out of whoever you target
Behold! It's the Master Defender Avoid Incap Statue! Sculpted by Leonardo Devinci!
Anistasio
Mon Oct 03, 2005 9:12 pm
#7
you can use stims under stasis bro..also you can use 2 avoids to prevent that..and stasis uses no force? its like 4-5 hundred and itmissed so much. also if your master saber too your leaving yourself wide open. mdef can win better without msaber having those skill points better used. mdef can outlast other temps majority of the time. least what i think.
Message Edited by Anistasio on 10-04-2005 01:18 AM
gforce73
Mon Oct 03, 2005 10:11 pm
#9
StrayS8 wrote:
AI as we know it has a short timer...i think it should be like cloak the more ppl hitting u the faster u lose ur force, not a 25 sectimer and 1k force cost peruse,when statis uses nothing as for fc and last 40 sec or so ,doesnt seem fair. not calling for a nerf just to get AI up to par...healer needs alot of help but mdef gets no love at all. we have 3abiltys and all that defefense does nothing like it should (reduce damage taken). those who choose mdef gotit so we could be a great tank butall a mdef has is AI and vs a mhen all he has to do is get negative ham on the mdef and statis andthen def is dead! seem fair? na didnt think so. just my idea.
just give us your feedback on AI and how it could be made better.
I am Menh, MLS, and I can't beat good defenders. Even with +72 crispic I still miss constantly and it's impossible to outheal the damageI take and just as impossible to do enough damage to force the defender to use AI. I have a 734 max damage saber with a 2.02 base speed and use ruby bile and stims to augment my 4000 healer and I still can't keep up with the damage. Mdef is the best pvp/pve temp at the moment hands down.I don't know what you're doing, but maybe you should take some time to figure out just how good you have it right now.
edit: (Let me add to that you can use stims when you're in Stasis, just fyi.)
Message Edited by gforce73 on 10-03-2005 10:16 PM
Bib-Fortuna
Mon Oct 03, 2005 10:55 pm
#10
StrayS8 wrote:AI as we know it has a short timer...i think it should be like cloak the more ppl hitting u the faster u lose ur force, not a 25 sec timer and 1k force cost per use, when statis uses nothing as for fc and last 40 sec or so ,doesnt seem fair. not calling for a nerf just to get AI up to par...healer needs alot of help but mdef gets no love at all. we have 3 abiltys and all that defefense does nothing like it should (reduce damage taken). those who choose mdef got it so we could be a great tank but all a mdef has is AI and vs a mhen all he has to do is get negative ham on the mdef and statis and then def is dead! seem fair? na didnt think so. just my idea.just give us your feedback on AI and how it could be made better.
AI should be like FA.
We should lose force if the hit reduces us to under 0 health. The move is a Jedi trying to stay conscious, if there's no risk of unconsciousness (more then 1 health) it should take no effort.
hamhamthe3rd
Mon Oct 03, 2005 11:02 pm
#11
impstalker wrote:
if your not useful now you never will be, there are nothing but massive gank squads on both sides. A defender is made to tank that means you go to the front line ai and take the dmg while your buddys beat the hell out of whoever you target
he said he wants IT to be useful, not that hes not useful. most mdef-ers i know dont even use AI, and the ones i see use it, they die shortly thereafter, i wonder why.maybe its too useful?
Tapa
Tue Oct 04, 2005 12:39 pm
#12
master defender was nerfed fair and square, calling more attention to it will only cause more nerfs. Look at healer, we asked for fixes, got attention from SOE, and they nerfed us to be even more useless than before, a feat I thought not possible, but somehow SOE did it... they will do the same to defender if you keep asking for fixes, mark my words.
iosskman
Tue Oct 04, 2005 1:08 pm
#13
You all keep saying AI when it doesnt work?? it fails 50% of the time im gunan start posting a SS of everytime it fails and im sure i can get at least 5 SS a day of it failing...anyways leave MDEF alont i like it how it is (besides AI).
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