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Thread: Question: Is this an exploit?

Tamianx
Tue Sep 27, 2005 7:10 pm
#1

All,


Here is the situation. I was fighting (or should say playing with as had no chance of actually killing with my uber 300 dps saber and partial template) a BH this eve. Three things occured:


1) Healed Probot with Bacta .. very annoying

2) After awhile called in a friend to break my stasis .. didnt even bother to fight from there, just logged.


and what this post is about


3) When I rooted him, and moved in to hit he spun arround me (while he was rooted) and moved outside melee range .. rinse and repeat.


This is not a cry wolf post, but would figure if an individual is rooted, they could not perform those types of acts (basically kiling half my already crap dps).


Anyways .. looking for comments, and if not considered such how do you counter?


Tam
VexXev
Tue Sep 27, 2005 7:13 pm
#2

healing a droid isn't a exploit. i hear my droids all the time.


getting a friend to break stasis sint' a exploit, just kinda cheap, but the 45 second stasis is very annoying.


and when you rooted him it was probably lag while he was running and just waited to up date. like when somebody using FR gets kd'd and slides 100m before they actually stand up.






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Tue Sep 27, 2005 7:15 pm
#3

Its fairly well known to ranged characters that dive shot, roll shot, and charge shot will move you a slight distance even when rooted... although what you are describing doesn't quite sound like one of those specials.




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Dontblink
Tue Sep 27, 2005 7:16 pm
#4

Had to read that post 2 times. From what I can gather, it sounds as if someone was lagging when the other person was rooted. How did his buddy break your stasis? Logging out is your choice, keep in mind that you are vulnerable for a short period of time.



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Xalya_Shadowalker
Tue Sep 27, 2005 7:19 pm
#5






VexXev wrote:

healing a droid isn't a exploit. i hear my droids all the time.


getting a friend to break stasis sint' a exploit, just kinda cheap, but the 45 second stasis is very annoying.


and when you rooted him it was probably lag while he was running and just waited to up date. like when somebody using FR gets kd'd and slides 100m before they actually stand up.








Actually the first two are exploits. Droids shouldnt be healed by bacta shot, spray, or toss, and the /duel exploit is just like /duelling another person to db a Jedi before the BH can.





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Tamianx
Tue Sep 27, 2005 7:20 pm
#6






VexXev wrote:

healing a droid isn't a exploit. i hear my droids all the time.


When a driod is destoryed I really find it hard to belive that a heal should be able to repair it (and self) in one shot. No issue with a 'repair kit' and 'bot heal kit' that I belive are in game to facilitate this, but bacta toss? /shrug


getting a friend to break stasis sint' a exploit, just kinda cheap, but the 45 second stasis is very annoying.


Annoying but my only chance of not dying, as I right now have no chance of winning. Again, if no one is to help 'influance' the fight then this really needs to be fixed IMO.


and when you rooted him it was probably lag while he was running and just waited to up date. like when somebody using FR gets kd'd and slides 100m before they actually stand up.



That all said, and said above, can deal with each of those two .. but no, was not lag. To clarify .. this happened when rooted and I moved into 5m range .. and each and every time i returned (while he was rooted already) into 5m range. Basically he moved closer to me, spun arround me several times, and that seemed to push him out of melee range (and still rooted /ponder).







DarthINSANUS
Tue Sep 27, 2005 7:25 pm
#7






Tamianx wrote:




When a driod is destoryed I really find it hard to belive that a heal should be able to repair it (and self) in one shot. No issue with a 'repair kit' and 'bot heal kit' that I belive are in game to facilitate this, but bacta toss? /shrug


I would /bug this, its not intended for droids to be healed with Medic equipment.


Annoying but my only chance of not dying, as I right now have no chance of winning. Again, if no one is to help 'influance' the fight then this really needs to be fixed IMO.


Not much could be done about this, unless they go for some sort of private one on one battle while in BH/Jedi combat (Think JKII). So long as people can be near the BH and /duel him, this can happen and they can break your stasis..I think its cheesy as hell , and may be considerd an exploit by some..but your going to run into it so be prepared.



That all said, and said above, can deal with each of those two .. but no, was not lag. To clarify .. this happened when rooted and I moved into 5m range .. and each and every time i returned (while he was rooted already) into 5m range. Basically he moved closer to me, spun arround me several times, and that seemed to push him out of melee range (and still rooted /ponder).


They only thing this could have been is really really bad lag...and with his friend breaking the stasis within seconds, Im guessing you never had a chance to really get to where he wasbefore the lag caught up.








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Tamianx
Tue Sep 27, 2005 7:29 pm
#8






DarthINSANUS wrote:





Tamianx wrote:





That all said, and said above, can deal with each of those two .. but no, was not lag. To clarify .. this happened when rooted and I moved into 5m range .. and each and every time i returned (while he was rooted already) into 5m range. Basically he moved closer to me, spun arround me several times, and that seemed to push him out of melee range (and still rooted /ponder).


They only thing this could have been is really really bad lag...and with his friend breaking the stasis within seconds, Im guessing you never had a chance to really get to where he wasbefore the lag caught up.







His friend showed up later .. was good hour and no lag. If only happned a few times I could buy it, but each and every time >> including << after he was rooted a bit. Remember root last what 20 sec .. so thats 2-3 move into range, attempt to attack, have him do this and have to move back to him. Lag *could* cause it right after the root, but after .. hard for me to buy that.


Tam


Loki_Ashaman
Tue Sep 27, 2005 7:32 pm
#9

When he was spinning around you, was he attacking? Can you check your combat log for what attack he was using (if its still there and you have verbose combat on)?




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Tamianx
Tue Sep 27, 2005 7:36 pm
#10






Loki_Ashaman wrote:
When he was spinning around you, was he attacking? Can you check your combat log for what attack he was using (if its still there and you have verbose combat on)?






Did not have logging on at the time, but will toss it on if occurs again. Appreciate the help however.
Loki_Ashaman
Tue Sep 27, 2005 7:40 pm
#11

Hmm, did he ever KD you while spinning around?
Only thing I can think of is he was repeating Charged Shot in order to take advantage of the charging forward while firing affect in the hopes of getting moved out of range, but it could be something else entirely.




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Tamianx
Tue Sep 27, 2005 7:51 pm
#12






Loki_Ashaman wrote:
Hmm, did he ever KD you while spinning around?
Only thing I can think of is he was repeating Charged Shot in order to take advantage of the charging forward while firing affect in the hopes of getting moved out of range, but it could be something else entirely.






Interesting suggestion ...


I only remember being KD'd one or two times during when he did that, but thats not to say it was not Charged Shot .. the fight went the usual way, I got KD'd .. got up .. rooted .. moved in .. experianced this bs .. played arround a bit .. stasis'd .. moved away .. waited for him to find me a few hundred meters off .. rinse/repeat. With 300 DPS and horid sac/fc atm (not full template and crap crystals) thats about all I can do (yet to die, but of 7 now I have only been able to kill one and it was his first mark).


Tam


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