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Thread: Really close to dropping MLS

MrDoppa
Sun Oct 23, 2005 7:45 am
#1

Currently, I am MLS, Def 4440, Enh 3002 and Healer 4000.


I've read from these very forums that this is considered a fotm. To be honest, I gravitated towards this temp just because of what it means to me. Gives me good ls damage. Enough defense, enough enhancer to give me fr1 and fs2 and enough healer to keep my hide intact while I wrest for the upper hand. Not to mention channel which keeps me in the game.


Now I want to master defender. I hear that mdef is no longer viable because AI now bites. I do feel I want to try it for myself. I currently have 3.8 mil xp. I don't want to use it if I don't have to because after my jedi grind, I wouldn't mind never seeing a grind again! lol.


Now, obv. my first inclination is to drop mls. To be honest, unless your going for mls, 1 hand ls seems to be a waste of sp. If they had left adv. saber throw in the tech tree as a knockdown, there would be no question. That adv. saber throw is a big part of my strategy as it allows me to let that bh know that I can still get to him. 60 percent of a pvp battle is mental. maybe even more!


So I know this is another of the million or so template questions around, but Im looking to see if there are any other point of views that could help me make my decision.


PS and this is no flame to the enhancers or healers. But witht he current state of those two disciplines, I couldnt imagine mastering one of those. Im sure it's very short sighted of me, it's just that I grew up in the era of rock em sock em robots and i like to be able to hit something very hard! lol



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Wolf24601
Sun Oct 23, 2005 8:08 am
#2

I have your current template...I went to it from MDEF/LS0404/heal 4000/enh 3402 (FA2 sucked...bad choice)


My friend has bounced between MDEF/MLS/Heal4040 and MDEF/MLS/ENH002/Heal3000


With the fix to the speed bug that allowed exploiting of the cool down timers, I think you have to take a hard look at damage output versus damage taken. I didn't use the exploit and went to MLS because MDEF/LS0404 was too slow, even with force speed.


My friend swears by his template, after trying my current template for a while. MDEF/MLS is very strong, but it doesn't allow as many supporting skills from among FR, speed, channel, snare and root.


I am inclined to believe that MLS/MDEF is about the best template for PVP...though Enhancers can really hurt it...but I just enjoy the variety in mine too much to sacrifice it. Hope that helps.


Wolf


Daroneji
Sun Oct 23, 2005 8:22 am
#3


Was attacked by a mbh/mcm yesterday and was slaughtered in2 minutesflat thanks to the squad leaderbuffs and mbh debuffs. Always be able to hold my own against a mcm though not usually kill them, but fight for a good 30+ mins till my fp run low and had to run.


But now with the sl buffs, mcm debuffs, roots and snares screwing us by making us crawl, i'd hold off and see what soe does to destroy jedi. I'm saber 3404, mdef, ehn 4002, heal 4000. AI now makes u crawl even with forcerun2 on u crawl thanks to these new snare implementations. Not good, not good at all.


Oh and my aura, innate armour and improved infusion didn't do jack.
drfeelgood9
Sun Oct 23, 2005 8:25 am
#4

mls would be viable if they would ever fix speed bugs. why have that extra skill when you cant use it.
MrDoppa
Mon Oct 24, 2005 5:06 am
#5






drfeelgood9 wrote:
mls would be viable if they would ever fix speed bugs. why have that extra skill when you cant use it.





I would be tempted to agree. but apparently, as I havent fought a bh in a little while now, those snares will mean that you won't be able to get close enough to use your saber.



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Grunzer
Mon Oct 24, 2005 5:15 am
#6


Actually I think with those snares MLS and it's ranged KD are even more necessary than some extra defense.


And I'm going for this template because I like it. It has a nice balance to it. I think MLS/MDEF is just not what a Jedi really is. You get nothing out of that template but a lightsaber as far as real jedi skills go.


Plus I like Force Run, it has other uses besides just pvp.

Message Edited by Grunzer on 10-24-2005 05:16 AM



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MrDoppa
Mon Oct 24, 2005 5:28 am
#7

Im agreeing with you 100%. If they hadn't removed adv saber throw out of the tech tree, this would be a no brainer. But I feel that that ranged knockdown is the whole center of my offense. Kinda like Joe Montana to Jerry Rice. Or Peyton Manning to marvin Harrison.



Unfortunately, the jedi are becoming like my NY Yankees team. Alot of shine but no crunch!





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