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meninus

Mon Oct 24, 2005 5:09 am

I have been studying NPC kills in PvE since the recent changes to jedi. This note applies to those wishing to quickly kill high end ranged/melee targets eg Blacksun/Blackscale/BD/SBD/ and corvette MOBS.

Currently jedi tank NPCs with ranged support. If the aggro moves to the ranged then the jedi hit even harder or dom mind to get it back.

I think this is dead wrong and here is why.

1) Ranged are often asked to turn down their damage so they dont draw aggro. This wastes loads of firepower because their damage is higher than jedi.

2) When jedi draw the aggro the theNPC goes melee and gets all of his melee defence pluses.

The ideal kill has the ranged getting the aggro, the NPC using a ranged attack and using ranged def and the melee profs hitting hard with melee attacks. The NPC looses most of its melee def and goes down much much quicker.

BAH u say - the ranged wont last 2 mins against an SBD. Well if your nothaving to heal your self you can heal the ranged. Whats more you can heal the NPC and that automatically heals whoever he is aggroing.

You want the NPC to be using the wrong type of weapon. I think they select this by damage. Whoever damages the most get the attaention and the approprate weapon.

STRANGE AS IT MAY SEEM. The ideal tank will be ranged, he will be a DOC or CM with a Pupped Ranged weapon.

iob

stefwright

Mon Oct 24, 2005 5:12 am

#2

guess it depends on how many ranged and melee players u have there.

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JarvisW

Mon Oct 24, 2005 6:06 am

#3

Ranged and Melee def is not working correctly at this time. Check the sticky at the top.

I'd say I'm having not much of a problemtanking the ranged now that I have Imp Valor, in fact thats the best improvement I've seen in my Def, and it was added last.

I say we use Dom Mind in order to keep the agg on us. but the ranged also has to stick to your mob. If they start shooting at something your not aggroing at the time, but just happens to be shooting at you, then you have to waste another Dom mind to get that one back, and if the ranged player AOEs the area, well, lets just say I sometimes let them take the incap, just to sort things out.

In fact tonight I took a group of 7 to the Kkowworrt, and finnaly got the badge tonight, tried out the blackscale with the best 6 of that group, and time ended while we were fighting the Commander in the compound! Then went to the Avatar and killed the HUGE wookie there for people that needed that mission. So I think we can still tank farily well, and I'm not a Mdef. We just need to manage the agro well, and hope you have other people that will stick to the mobs you select.

On another note, I do say the health regen on the above, especially the bosses, are REDICULOUS! Also the damage that they deal out is thru the roof! We made it through, but like I said, didn't make one. But some things may need not be soloable, but make them at least DUO-able or TRIO able, especially now days its getting harder and harder to find full groups like the one I was in tonight! The Hsshik guy (the one the 'crash lands' and you have to kill to get into the Blackscale comp)or whatever his name is, in the Webweaver section of Etty, handed me and my friend (both us are full temp) our rears in about 1 min! This was a guy that I really enjoyed soloing before. It took me all of my force that time, but it really made me watch my attacks and heals almost like I was fighting a BH. NOW, hes so hard its gonna take us a stinkin full group with a rezzer in order for him to get past this ONE part of the mission!

So to sum up, I dont think that the NPCs are using different def mods when they use ranged, or melee. It would be interesting to see that tho. I think we just have to walk from one to one till they are all dead, and we need to communicate with the group whats going on and what your plans as a tank are.

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