Jedi Archive

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lovisa wrote:

i am thinking on get that with some other nice skills but i wonder how much the lack of defens is show in fights

you get better iniate armor but less melee/range defens . any one can tell me how much the diffrents is that have had both that and mdef

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Actually those two trees togetherare pretty solid. A great alternative to Master Defender. With the Innate Jedi armor + Force armor your resists are 7000 then add the +500 defense across the board for turning Aura on. The only real issue with this is that there is a force cost for both your armor and defenses. That, and you have to keep them running, so you have to either pay a lot attention or run macros, which can fail at times.

Hope that helps.

yup, improved Force armor, along with novice defender, gives you the same innate armor as a master defender. As said, aura will help lower some of that damage range, thus lowering the FC of using FA, which is about 8% of the damage you take. (100 damage equals about 8 force)

It works nicely, a lot of others would say otherwise, but with good food combo, your (almost) as good as a mdef with tanking, you just can't do it for very long. And in duels, with the proper-know-how of channel (which any FA user should have...) you can last almost indefinitly, I've stood my ground against several MDEF's untill they ran out of force.

Your key is gonna be keeping aura up, properly channeling during the use of FA (not just when you start getting low) and the right foods. (use that melee def food, vega somethun, as well as the mitigation foods when you need too) And you'll be a mdef, but without AI.

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lovisa wrote:

i am thinking on get that with some other nice skills but i wonder how much the lack of defens is show in fights

you get better iniate armor but less melee/range defens . any one can tell me how much the diffrents is that have had both that and mdef

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Indiana-Reayle wrote:

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lovisa wrote:

i am thinking on get that with some other nice skills but i wonder how much the lack of defens is show in fights

you get better iniate armor but less melee/range defens . any one can tell me how much the diffrents is that have had both that and mdef

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You probally need to look at what other skills or mainly what you want to do with your jedi before you decide on FArmor and FAura. FArmor2 is nice if thats all ya got but its force intensive, in that I mean every hit you take will drain your force. FAura2 will not drain your force but if thats all you plan on taking in defender you will be loosing force pool max. Im not saying either one is a bad choice on defense but the other skills you choose will be how you decide what your defense will be. If you plan on going Mdef then there is no need to get FArmor2 as it will over cap your innate and cuase it to fail. If you want to dable in your template then x4xx ehn and xx4x def will be more than enough for you to handle any situation as long as you choose the proper skills to go with that set up. My advice would be think of what or your offense or support role will be and build a defense around that.

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Yeah, good point. To continue on, as I said if you're going to use FA, then force is your life. Channel is a must. I would reccomend going MLS, as anything short of that you're not gonna be doing that much offensivly.. and I wouldn't reccomend going powers as it puts a pretty hefty drain on your force as it is, bad combo with FA IMHO

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Maxil wrote:

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Indiana-Reayle wrote:

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lovisa wrote:

i am thinking on get that with some other nice skills but i wonder how much the lack of defens is show in fights

you get better iniate armor but less melee/range defens . any one can tell me how much the diffrents is that have had both that and mdef

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You probally need to look at what other skills or mainly what you want to do with your jedi before you decide on FArmor and FAura. FArmor2 is nice if thats all ya got but its force intensive, in that I mean every hit you take will drain your force. FAura2 will not drain your force but if thats all you plan on taking in defender you will be loosing force pool max. Im not saying either one is a bad choice on defense but the other skills you choose will be how you decide what your defense will be. If you plan on going Mdef then there is no need to get FArmor2 as it will over cap your innate and cuase it to fail. If you want to dable in your template then x4xx ehn and xx4x def will be more than enough for you to handle any situation as long as you choose the proper skills to go with that set up. My advice would be think of what or your offense or support role will be and build a defense around that.

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Yeah, good point. To continue on, as I said if you're going to use FA, then force is your life. Channel is a must. I would reccomend going MLS, as anything short of that you're not gonna be doing that much offensivly.. and I wouldn't reccomend going powers as it puts a pretty hefty drain on your force as it is, bad combo with FA IMHO

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I agree with Maxil, Powers is not for the unseasoned player when mixed with FArmor 2. MLS is viable with the proper equipment, pearls/crystals/food/drink/components for sabers etc...and when ready will/can be all the offense ya need.

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mturnage wrote:

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lovisa wrote:

i am thinking on get that with some other nice skills but i wonder how much the lack of defens is show in fights

you get better iniate armor but less melee/range defens . any one can tell me how much the diffrents is that have had both that and mdef

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Actually those two trees togetherare pretty solid. A great alternative to Master Defender. With the Innate Jedi armor + Force armor your resists are 7000 then add the +500 defense across the board for turning Aura on. The only real issue with this is that there is a force cost for both your armor and defenses. That, and you have to keep them running, so you have to either pay a lot attention or run macros, which can fail at times.

Hope that helps.

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so if i get you i get the same defens or almost as i have now (i am MDEF)

becourse i dont wanna loose to much defens when i change template

thanks it sounds nice

for the others that wonder or sugest skills

the other skills i plan to get or allready have is MLS 3-4-0-2 enhancer 4-0-4-0 healer 0-0-4-0 defender

i am atm MLS MDEF 4-0-4-0 healer and i love that temp but i lack of speed when i am speed debuffed even

if my moded speed is 1,26 without tapes . i thought if i get a more force intesiv temp but i can do alot more dmg

instead then it is the same in the end becourse i force my enemy to be defensiv .

eitherway any one that have numbers on let say 2k dmg from a shot of a carbine how much will MDEF vs FA2 and 0-0-4-0 def migrate i think for a MDEF it will be around 4-600dmg not sure

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Indiana-Reayle wrote:

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lovisa wrote:

i am thinking on get that with some other nice skills but i wonder how much the lack of defens is show in fights

you get better iniate armor but less melee/range defens . any one can tell me how much the diffrents is that have had both that and mdef

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You probally need to look at what other skills or mainly what you want to do with your jedi before you decide on FArmor and FAura. FArmor2 is nice if thats all ya got but its force intensive, in that I mean every hit you take will drain your force. FAura2 will not drain your force but if thats all you plan on taking in defender you will be loosing force pool max. Im not saying either one is a bad choice on defense but the other skills you choose will be how you decide what your defense will be. If you plan on going Mdef then there is no need to get FArmor2 as it will over cap your innate and cuase it to fail. If you want to dable in your template then x4xx ehn and xx4x def will be more than enough for you to handle any situation as long as you choose the proper skills to go with that set up. My advice would be think of what or your offense or support role will be and build a defense around that.

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i have had FA2 pre cu and it cost loads of force but i have read it has lowered by 4 times or something like that and i dont plan to fight that long anyway my plan is to kill before mind or force is out , force anyway mind will drain fast with SAP on them anyway

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Maxil wrote:

Yeah, good point. To continue on, as I said if you're going to use FA, then force is your life. Channel is a must. I would reccomend going MLS, as anything short of that you're not gonna be doing that much offensivly.. and I wouldn't reccomend going powers as it puts a pretty hefty drain on your force as it is, bad combo with FA IMHO

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my temp is gonna be about the same i am currently mls-healer 4000-enhancer3002-defender3040

temp when done should be mls healer 4000 enhancer 3402 defender 4040

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bolerlaw wrote:

my temp is gonna be about the same i am currently mls-healer 4000-enhancer3002-defender3040

temp when done should be mls healer 4000 enhancer 3402 defender 4040

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i thought about that temp but all have it at first (wanna be a little rare) and i really love SAP

it is nasty when you KD any one without action and they are down for like 5-10 sec instead of get up in 1-2 sec

upsy any one else have anything to add?

i dont have advice to add but rather a question to ask

If i decided to have Def 0044 and enh 3402

With Force Aura, Force Valor and Force Armor ? ... would that be better or the same with Faura and Farmor, would that be recommended

i know Force Valor increase your block ?