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Thread: More CL1 ideas (i wont be happy till you all scream for my blood)

pizzathehut67
Wed Sep 28, 2005 2:41 am
#1


i enjoy posting ideas and discussin. take your flames elsewhere. anyone out there who can think 5 seconds into the future?


the subject is mis-leading... these are warm cuddly ideas. please read the entire post before responding... im getting really really sick of repeating myself 15 times to answer the same question.


1. Jedi damage reflection

this entails

-remove damage reflection from BH duelist stance

-reduce the jedi's passive ability chance to block shots (more coming... read on)

-add in two flavors of the same special in the same skill box. both have a reasonable duration... like 20-25 minutes

special 1: raises the block rate back to normal for a next to nothing force cost

special 2: raises the block rate back to normal and has a chance to reflect 10% of the damage from ranged attacks back at any visible enemy. has a higher force cost than special 1. has a cool down timer of 10 minutes (to prevent jedi constantly running a macro to stack damage)

-the first ranged shot made on a jedi will use the same current block rate. this is so that the "first strike" doesnt become WAY too much. after the first shot however, the jedi must apply the buff

-any attack will remove the damage reflection ability... the blocking buff will remain in place. the jedi can attack or defend... but can not do both at the same time. this is to prevent jedi from stacking their own attack damage with that of a sniper shot from a T-21.


2. unlock high end specials by piecing together ancient jedi knowledge

this ties in with my idea for content geared specifically to jedi as a way to keep them out of the major cities. These would be long series of quests that are more than just go here kill that. You must piece together the facts and history books (while competing with sith hunting you) to obtain pieces of the puzzle. the mission would send the player all over to remote locations (existing jedi POI's... maybe tack instanced dungeons on at the end). a pretty neat story could be told with this... like howObi-Wandefeated a giant lizard thing using this attack (a PvE special attack). or how a signature attack Anakin used to wipe the adults guarding the jedi temple out (a jedi vs jedi special attack). or how Mace Windu decapitated Jengo Fett (a jedi vs BH special attack).

the quest lines would be more about the story and the player pieceing together clues to find the next place to go. if possible, making this quest series randomize the locations of pieces each time it's taken so that people cant just use a walkthrough and bypass the content so they can go right back to theed and show off the new special.... i can hear the ebayer now "HAW HAW HAW!!!! JOO SUXORS COS I GOT A NEW SPECIAL TO PWNZORS JOO!"


3. add more depth to jedi vs. jedi combat by adding saber stances

these would apply similarly to BH duelist stance but without the warm up... they would apply instantly. they can be changed on the fly with no cool down. these stances would only effect jedi vs jedi combat and provide no bonuses to jedi vs. non-jedi combat. they cost 0 force to use and maintain. They work like regular weapon PuPs... choosing your stance would be based upon what kind of saber your opponent is using... as well as what kind of stance. Maybe even tie some specials into certain stances... such that certain specials do more damage in certain stances. general ideas for the stances:

1 handed saber-

1. increase speed, decrease special cooldowns, decrease defense, decrease damage

2. increase special cooldowns, increase damage Vs. 2 handed saber, increase defense Vs. 2 handed saber,

3. increase damage, increase speed, increase special cooldowns, flurry type attack available for use (hits mutliple tagets in a radius around jedi, applies bleeding dot, applies snare, chance to apply blind, chance to apply random state effect)

2 handed saber-

1. increase damage, decrease special cooldowns, decrease defense, decrease speed

2. increase special cool downs, increase damage Vs. double bladed, increase defense Vs. double bladed

3.increase damage, increase speed, decrease defence, increase special cool downs, heavy full on assault combo looking special attackavailable (has a chance to break through jedi defensive buffs for 10 seconds, decreases enemy accuracy for next2 rounds)

double bladed-

1. increase defense, decrease special cooldowns, decrease damage, decrease speed

2. increase special cooldowns, increase damage Vs. 1 handed saber, increase defense vs. 1 handed saber

3.increase damage, increase speed, increase special cooldowns, decrease defense, acrobatic Darth Maul style special available for use(somthing with either a knockdown or stun effect as well as applying a second random state)


the stances most likely need a TON of tweaking/refinement/balancing... consider this a rough draft... first thoughts kinda thing.


see... much more warm and cuddly than my other posts

Message Edited by pizzathehut67 on 09-28-2005 01:28 PM



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Zedzuada
Wed Sep 28, 2005 3:24 am
#2

Have you ever noticed that when non-crafters talk about crafting they generally exhibit a lack of understanding of the subtleties?


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pizzathehut67
Wed Sep 28, 2005 3:29 am
#3






Zedzuada wrote:
Have you ever noticed that when non-crafters talk about crafting they generally exhibit a lack of understanding of the subtleties?


Zeddd





have you ever noticed that reading somthing before replying to it makes you sound like less of an idiot?


what in gods name is your problem with this set of ideas?


its 100% in your favor.... it adds more depth to your combat vs jedi and non jedi... gives more content... more rewards... more to do... interesting quests


what exactly is the downside to this?


oh right... you wouldnt know... you didnt bother to read the post you just clicked the subject then the reply button.



no more replies for either for being an egotistical moron who cant spend accept the fact that some of us actually want to help make the game better... whether you think it or not... this is all trying to help make the game more enjoyable for all.



so take your retarded flames back to eisley and shove it.


anyone else with half a brain wanna comment?





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VampyrePK
Wed Sep 28, 2005 3:33 am
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pizzathehut67
Wed Sep 28, 2005 3:44 am
#5






VampyrePK wrote:






interesting



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eternalfool
Wed Sep 28, 2005 6:17 am
#6






pizzathehut67 wrote:





Zedzuada wrote:
Have you ever noticed that when non-crafters talk about crafting they generally exhibit a lack of understanding of the subtleties?


Zeddd





have you ever noticed that reading somthing before replying to it makes you sound like less of an idiot?


what in gods name is your problem with this set of ideas?


its 100% in your favor.... it adds more depth to your combat vs jedi and non jedi... gives more content... more rewards... more to do... interesting quests


what exactly is the downside to this?


oh right... you wouldnt know... you didnt bother to read the post you just clicked the subject then the reply button.



no more replies for either for being an egotistical moron who cant spend accept the fact that some of us actually want to help make the game better... whether you think it or not... this is all trying to help make the game more enjoyable for all.



so take your retarded flames back to eisley and shove it.


anyone else with half a brain wanna comment?








Have *you* ever noticed that snapping at people like this makes people dislike you?


I have had the dubious pleasure of reading all your posts hereand while this is probably the least offensive I have to agree with Zedzuada on this, stick to what you know.





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mauvros
Wed Sep 28, 2005 6:49 am
#7






eternalfool wrote:





pizzathehut67 wrote:





Zedzuada wrote:
Have you ever noticed that when non-crafters talk about crafting they generally exhibit a lack of understanding of the subtleties?


Zeddd





have you ever noticed that reading somthing before replying to it makes you sound like less of an idiot?


what in gods name is your problem with this set of ideas?


its 100% in your favor.... it adds more depth to your combat vs jedi and non jedi... gives more content... more rewards... more to do... interesting quests


what exactly is the downside to this?


oh right... you wouldnt know... you didnt bother to read the post you just clicked the subject then the reply button.



no more replies for either for being an egotistical moron who cant spend accept the fact that some of us actually want to help make the game better... whether you think it or not... this is all trying to help make the game more enjoyable for all.



so take your retarded flames back to eisley and shove it.


anyone else with half a brain wanna comment?








Have *you* ever noticed that snapping at people like this makes people dislike you?


I have had the dubious pleasure of reading all your posts hereand while this is probably the least offensive I have to agree with Zedzuada on this, stick to what you know.








and who knows? Its SOE's game and they cant get it right. Who knows the game better than SOE? Why do they keep screwing it up?



Stick to what they know... its people on this forum who think they "know" whats good for this game thats the problem.



We need a new mind to fix this game. Someone from the outside who has never seen or played this game. Lock them in a room and fix this crap.



Spartan-17
Wed Sep 28, 2005 7:00 am
#8


well i think your make jedi better than bh idea is ( insert insult here).. lol bh are not more powerful than jedi and vise versa we are currently somewhat equal and will remain until prem pearls are reintroduced back in game.. so stupid posts about nerfing this or fixing this doesnt help and speed up the time until prems and frs come back so save yourself the typing and just sit and wait because your wasting everyones time and forum space for the newer jedi who have questions about jedi etc and those funny how a bh killed me stories...


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Zhentarim
Wed Sep 28, 2005 7:04 am
#9


"We need a new mind to fix this game. Someone from the outside who has never seen or played this game. Lock them in a room and fix this crap."



Actually wasn't this what happenedduring the Combat Upgrade? As far as I recall a few "bright" heads from EQ was recruited to work on the project



*edited for stupid typo


Message Edited by Zhentarim on 09-28-2005 07:08 AM



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MrPistoleer
Wed Sep 28, 2005 7:17 am
#10


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Lol instead of messing with our Jedi system, why don't you go craft me up some new robes and a repair kit for my BARC. I will support all of your ideas only after this has been done.



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Don-Vito
Wed Sep 28, 2005 7:18 am
#11

I find it hilarious that 2 non jedi are flaming each other about jedi in which from what i can see know very little...........anyone else agree.



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KyiasLightsun
Wed Sep 28, 2005 7:27 am
#12



Don-Vito wrote:
I find it hilarious that 2 non jedi are flaming each other about jedi in which from what i can see know very little...........anyone else agree.





/agree

for starters...

you want to make an idea for us to read in n intellegent well thought out way...make your TITLE of the thread reflect that..

secondly...

for these ideas to be implemented, it would take the devs massive amounts of coding time, something I don't wnt to happen. Little tweaks here and there to this current system would make it equally enjoyable....we don't need a new system.


Lastly...

you are a moron for flaming the first post that was posted on your thread about your ideas. If you can't take what criticisim is put on here (he didn't flame you...) then feel free to not post more ideas so your ideas so your feelings won't get hurt anymore.


seriously, if you wanted well thought out responses you don't make your title "I won't stop till you all scream for blood" it is just the most hypocritical title I have ever read. we don't hate you, but you giving ideas on Jedi, a system you haven't experienced, is like me changing chef, or armorsmith.




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Zedzuada
Wed Sep 28, 2005 7:41 am
#13


pizzathehut67 wrote:


Zedzuada wrote:
Have you ever noticed that when non-crafters talk about crafting they generally exhibit a lack of understanding of the subtleties?


Zeddd


have you ever noticed that reading somthing before replying to it makes you sound like less of an idiot?

*** Much defensiveness excised ***

what exactly is the downside to this?


*** More defensiveness removed ***
If you had ever actually played a Jedi, you would know that there is plenty of major brokenness that needs fixing before anything new gets added.

As a tailor, would you likethe devs change the appearance of the clothing and armour crafting tool to look like a sewing machine? Or would you prefer that the fix the factory colour bug?

As a merchant, would you like the devs added a new hair colour for vendors? Or would you prefer that they fix the missing stats bug and do something about the relisting process?

As a bio-engineer, would you like the devs to add a new charisma stat to crafted pets? Or would you prefer that they fix the tissues that haven't worked since the CU and make pet deeds stats accurate?

Your postings in this forum are the equivalent of asking for sewing machines, new hair colours and pretty pets. We want the existing stuff fixed first.

Now, as someone has already suggested, please stick to what you know.


Zeddd

Message Edited by Zedzuada on 09-28-2005 10:43 AM



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