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Thread: You know, I really admire SOE in a way

WinkerPeeper
Mon Nov 07, 2005 4:25 am
#1

They never once listened to their customers. They always said the same thing - balance the professions, don't equalise them, don't tamper with the core elements of the game, fix the piddling little details that affect everyday play


So SOE spent months equalising them rather balancing, and tampering rather than fixing.


And people began to leave in droves. Sony never understood, for example,that the fact a Wookie couldn't wear a necklace was more important to the player who played that wookie than the abesence of a combat queue. Tiny little details like this, thousands of them, from the Jedi speed bug to the CH nerfs to the broken 'Sniper Shot' of Rifleman to the totally ignored Smugglers. thousands of these tiny details, almost any one of which could have been fixed in aday,built up like a static charge.


Sony then tried more equalising and tampering; Publish 9, The CU, NGE... None of it worked. It didn't work before and, I'll bet the farm, it's not going to work now. Ask yourselves - why would anyone buy a twirch-based, console-skewed FPS-version of SWG when there are so many, better, cheaper and specifically designed such games already out there?


The problem always came down to this:


SOE always thought it was good as housebuilding. Not only was it not but it couldn't even do the one thing its customers actually did want: simple housekeeping.



Formerly Redyrd, MLS/MDEF/Heal 4XX4. Now L60 Shadowpriest.
Darkknight109
Mon Nov 07, 2005 4:41 am
#2

Very true. However, I fail to see how that's admirable. More like "pathetic" if you ask me...


Using your house analogy it's like they built a grand, magnificent dream house. Not a lot of furniture in it at the start, but we decided to buy it and move in anyways. Then they stick around to help maintain and refurbish the place.... only they don't. We get some new furniture from time to time, a nice garage or two (which also has some housekeeping issues), but the place is starting to get rundown. There's a whole bunch of things that need maitenance and fixing.


But we aren't just sitting there demanding it be fixed, we're saying to them, "Do you want us to show you how to fix that? Here is how we would do it." Then they ignore us and try and use a hammer to put a screw in place, causing more problems than we started with.





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SayKin
Mon Nov 07, 2005 4:59 am
#3

*claps and nods in agreement* So true!



Saykin
The Dead Elder Jedi



WinkerPeeper
Mon Nov 07, 2005 5:26 am
#4






Darkknight109 wrote:

Very true. However, I fail to see how that's admirable. More like "pathetic" if you ask me...


Using your house analogy it's like they built a grand, magnificent dream house. Not a lot of furniture in it at the start, but we decided to buy it and move in anyways. Then they stick around to help maintain and refurbish the place.... only they don't. We get some new furniture from time to time, a nice garage or two (which also has some housekeeping issues), but the place is starting to get rundown. There's a whole bunch of things that need maitenance and fixing.


But we aren't just sitting there demanding it be fixed, we're saying to them, "Do you want us to show you how to fix that? Here is how we would do it." Then they ignore us and try and use a hammer to put a screw in place, causing more problems than we started with.







I wholly agree.


We didn't just live in the first house SOE built, we offered to renovate it for them.


These forums are now legendary for their hate and anger but, in the beginning, they were full of idea upon idea of how to improve, renovate and expand the game. Just look at Gizmo's ideas for aworkable FRS - for god's sake, 100s of posters used it astheir sign-in sig.


I do not know a single idea - not a single one - that appeared on these forums that the Devs ever used.





Formerly Redyrd, MLS/MDEF/Heal 4XX4. Now L60 Shadowpriest.
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