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Thread: Please explain how the proposed FR nerf works.

Calel_Haven
Wed Oct 12, 2005 8:12 am
#1

I'm a little confused about this. From what I read, it looks as though a CM will be able to prevent a Jedi from using FR in a fight, period!


What I'd like to know, is how long can they do this for. Is it impossible to use FR at all while in the battle?


I dont have FR on when fighting at the moment becuase it's FR2, but when things start to turn ugly, I can if I'm smart, kite the BH and activate FR2 and get the hell out of there.


I'm still hoping I can /root and get some distance in before activating FR2 should I need to escape. I know my cloak is getting a snare which I'm not happy about, and I'm worried now that I will soon have no way to escape a BH, just accept that should I come across a MBH/CM, I should just go prone and wait it out.


If someone who's testing these in Beta could explain how it works, and what can be done (if anything) to counter this, I'd apreciate it.





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KaliMaul
Wed Oct 12, 2005 8:26 am
#2

Debuffs will override buffs, that means any type of snare totally disables FR AND applies the snare...



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Morgil
Wed Oct 12, 2005 8:28 am
#3

When a snare is applied to you, if you haveFR activated, it will not only remove theFR buff, but will apply the snare on top of your base speed. This can be reapplied multiple times and everytime it will remove FR if you managed to reactivate it. Basically we can now be kept at walking speed the entire duration of the fight, they can kite us until we are lying in the cloners wondering why we still play this game.


Calel_Haven
Wed Oct 12, 2005 8:28 am
#4






KaliMaul wrote:
Debuffs will override buffs, that means any type of snare totally disables FR AND applies the snare...




Is there a a timer? can the BH simply keep applying this debuff till I'm dead or do I have a window of opportunity that can be exploited to escape?



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XenosAllus
Wed Oct 12, 2005 8:28 am
#5

And with the CM snare lasting for 2 min and can be re-applied at will it will mean only a really lousy MCM will let you get away.


...enjoy



-Xenos Allus


XXCambriaXX
Wed Oct 12, 2005 8:30 am
#6

Calel, please stop posting your worthless complaints, you are obviously a newb jedi, Maybe you would like it If I went on My forum and posted the top 10 Reasons why your posts are worthless to me, quit complaining.

Its a debuff that lasts 2mins and cant be reapplyed for another 60 secs because of "anger" like root, if you cant last 2 mins in PvP then cancel right now

Message Edited by XXCambriaXX on 10-12-2005 08:32 AM



Kom'rk tsad droten troch nyn ures aden, Dha werda verda a'den tratu.....

Cuy'vul dar Trattok'o!
Bah an be bure Du'kut duraanir, Ni ven hett gar ka'rtas...
Gar tyn vorer bure Gra'tya Cuun!
Pain is a great teacher for human beings,
The soul grows under the breath of pain,
To be human is to have the freedom to control one's fate.

-Shadow'Cloak-
KaliMaul
Wed Oct 12, 2005 8:31 am
#7

The 2 minute CM-snare can be reapplied anytime.



Canceled
Gooba Kali - Nightelf Mage Dark Jedi Elder - pre-NGE Warmaster or whatever
Adyr Kali - Imperial slug
The pwner of Starsider's 8 year old xbox jedi (omg were do i loot a kryat peral?!?!?!)
The plural of jedi is jedi!
OMG LOLZ N00B YOU ARE PWNT OMG!!!!ONEHUNDREDANDELEVEN

XXCambriaXX
Wed Oct 12, 2005 8:34 am
#8

nope, reapllying CM snare Unsnares ya If its already on ya, and you have to wait for the cooldown timer and the mind cost, it takes 25% mind to apply it. Spamming it is not a good idea.

Message Edited by XXCambriaXX on 10-12-2005 08:35 AM



Kom'rk tsad droten troch nyn ures aden, Dha werda verda a'den tratu.....

Cuy'vul dar Trattok'o!
Bah an be bure Du'kut duraanir, Ni ven hett gar ka'rtas...
Gar tyn vorer bure Gra'tya Cuun!
Pain is a great teacher for human beings,
The soul grows under the breath of pain,
To be human is to have the freedom to control one's fate.

-Shadow'Cloak-
Morgil
Wed Oct 12, 2005 8:36 am
#9






XXCambriaXX wrote:
nope, reapllying CM snare Unsnares ya If its already on ya, and you have to wait for the cooldown timer and the mind cost, ot takes 25% mind to apply it. Spamming it is not a good idea.

Message Edited by XXCambriaXX on 10-12-2005 08:34 AM





1. mind regens so fast with certain foods that the 25% every 1min 45 secis not of much consequence


2. Until they fix the cooldown timer bypass bug, the cooldown time on snare reapplying is irrelevant tbh



Ikict
Wed Oct 12, 2005 8:37 am
#10

I am against the upcoming FR nerf.

However, if they have to make a way to stop FR why did they chose a skill in the CM profession? surely this will lead to even more FOTM bh's running around
Calel_Haven
Wed Oct 12, 2005 8:38 am
#11






XXCambriaXX wrote:
Calel, please stop posting your worthless complaints, you are obviously a newb jedi, Maybe you would like it If I went on My forum and posted the top 10 Reasons why your posts are worthless to me, quit complaining.

Its a debuff that lasts 2mins and cant be reapplyed for another 60 secs because of "anger" like root, if you cant last 2 mins in PvP then cancel right now

Message Edited by XXCambriaXX on 10-12-2005 08:32 AM





Please stop posting worthless comments in my posts. This is a forum. Definition: a public meeting or assembly for open discussion.


If you feel my valid questions are invalid, tough. You dont have to read or post in my thread.


I had no idea how long the debuff lasted for or how long it asked. If I did, I wouldnt have asked, plain and simple.


I'm a full template Jedi and have been for some months. Not that that's got squat to do with it. I dont have access to beta so I have no idea what these proposed nerfs include.


If you bother to take time to read my post, you'll realise (maybe not) that this isnt a complaint. It's a question to which some people have answered. Now go grief someone else.





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KRAKEN666
Wed Oct 12, 2005 8:39 am
#12

went to the tc last night, action bar regens extremely fast mind bar extremely slow.
XXCambriaXX
Wed Oct 12, 2005 8:39 am
#13

Thats still really high Mind cost for a 4000 CM, the Master Sabers I was facing hit me for 1100 per sec w/ Armorbreak, but then ran far away with full ham... and I was almost dead, But I didnt wanna mess with him because he was beating the **** outa me faster then I could heal w/ Stims+BactaShot+Bactaspray+bactatoss



Kom'rk tsad droten troch nyn ures aden, Dha werda verda a'den tratu.....

Cuy'vul dar Trattok'o!
Bah an be bure Du'kut duraanir, Ni ven hett gar ka'rtas...
Gar tyn vorer bure Gra'tya Cuun!
Pain is a great teacher for human beings,
The soul grows under the breath of pain,
To be human is to have the freedom to control one's fate.

-Shadow'Cloak-
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