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Thread: Another template question. Specifically looking for M. Enh feedback

Zodiac-B
Sat Sep 17, 2005 11:27 am
#1

Here's the template I'm thinking about: M. Enh / MLS / Healer 4040


Anyone have this template? How does it work towards PvP or PvE? I've heard some great things about PvP, so the biggest feedback I'm looking for is how well it does with high level PvE.





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Camacho
Sat Sep 17, 2005 11:47 am
#2



Take a look at this thread.....you may find it quite helpful


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Gohma_Manovich
Sat Sep 17, 2005 11:50 am
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Camacho wrote:

Take a look at this thread.....you may find it quite helpful










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Camacho
Sat Sep 17, 2005 11:51 am
#4

Thanks....I'm just starting to play around with the "clicky maker"

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Zodiac-B
Sat Sep 17, 2005 3:08 pm
#5






Camacho wrote:



Take a look at this thread.....you may find it quite helpful








That thread was very helpful, thank you very much. But now it poses a new template possibility. What does everyone think about MEnh / MDef / LS 0404 or 0044?


I understand this is a lot of defense, but with a template like this, how could anything PvE touch you? Please help, I'm getting confused





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lovisa
Sat Sep 17, 2005 3:10 pm
#6






Zodiac-B wrote:





Camacho wrote:



Take a look at this thread.....you may find it quite helpful








That thread was very helpful, thank you very much. But now it poses a new template possibility. What does everyone think about MEnh / MDef / LS 0404 or 0044?


I understand this is a lot of defense, but with a template like this, how could anything PvE touch you? Please help, I'm getting confused





you are dead pretty fast withhout healing



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Zodiac-B
Sat Sep 17, 2005 3:22 pm
#7






lovisa wrote:

you are dead pretty fast withhout healing






You're probably right. Why does every template need HEALER?





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lovisa
Sat Sep 17, 2005 3:23 pm
#8

becourse some how there is allways some one beating on you



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INGAME NAME LOVISA
Emouh
Sat Sep 17, 2005 3:28 pm
#9


MLS / MEnh / Healer 4400 here. The template you're thinking about, without healer, is as some said very hard to play cause you'll lack healing. Stims won't be enough in high end pve or pvp.


Your starting template - MLS MEnh Healer 4040 - can be very good in PvE, even solo. You got good offensive possibilities with MLS (KD, armor break, powerattack, leg/head/body hit), good healing abilities with Healer 4xxx, and Menhancer is very fun and efficient in PvE : root, snare and above all stasis let you manage aggro as you want.


With Force Armor and a large pool force, and appropriate foods, you can tank 2 or 3 mobs (depending on their level, I talk about NS for ex, not SBD of course ), and if you get more aggros or you can't manage as much, then simply root/stase them and less aggro.


You'll also benefit from forcespeed 2 and channel - meditate can be useful to regen force after big battle - in fact, only the column 3 from Enhancer will be useless, but that's a sacrifice you can do to get stasis. And I forgot to mention rezzing oneself can be useful to quickly come back in the fight and help some friends.


As a conclusion, let me say that this has been my template for a long time now, and I find it funnier to play than MDef (tested it too - thanks to the 3 weeks respec). If you know your role and know your not the tank, but can take some damage, you'll be allright.







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Metalsaber
Sat Sep 17, 2005 3:32 pm
#10

i was master enhancer for the longest time. Quite simply put if you dont have at least 4040 def you will die quickly in pvp. I respec from master enhancer to master def. I'm so glad i did. Before i could take down a GDK and it would cost me about 20% force. With master Def, i can now kill a GDK with about 5% force. Master defender is great.



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Zodiac-B
Sat Sep 17, 2005 3:52 pm
#11






lovisa wrote:

becourse some how there is allways some one beating on you





ROFL!!! That is a priceless answer. I really needed the giggle. Thanks!





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Zodiac-B
Sat Sep 17, 2005 4:02 pm
#12

Ok, now thinking seriously about what I'd use my template for. Before being Jedi, I didn't have healer or any medic, and I did just fine PvE (I dealt all the power and tanked anything: MSwords / TKM). Then as a M. Rifleman, I fought a M. Def andhardly touched him. Granted the good BH's can get around a M Def, but with M. Enh in addition to that, I still don't see why I need Healer. I've never been up against a good BH, so this is where I am the most confused about whythis secondary Def / Enh template would not work. LS 0404 is obvious. I need some type of offense and I've seen many people be quite successful with just this in LS.





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dubber2558
Sat Sep 17, 2005 4:09 pm
#13



If you want a lot of defense consider this...


MDEF, 4402 ENH, 4000 heal and 0403 LS


Advantages: 110 innate armor(if my math is correct), good best heals w/o MH., Channel and FR2


Dis-advantages: Not MLS, LS accuracy+ SPeed(eat alot of crispic and keep FS2 on at all times) and missing ADV saber throw, Low Force compared to double mastery.


-=OR=-


MDEF, 3402 Enh, 4000 heal, and 0404 LS


Advantages:110 innate armor(if my math is correct), good/best heals w/o MH., Channel, and FR1


Dis-advantages: Not MLS, LS accuracy+Speed (eat alot of crispic keep FS2 on at all times) Low Force compared to double mastery.



Another option, since you will be over 100 innate armor(which is pretty much a waste with the whole diminshing returns formula) with the above temps:


MDEF, 4203 Enh, 4000 heal, and 4040 LS.


Advantages:90 innate armor(if my math is correct), good/best heals w/o MH, DrainChannel, and FR2


Dis-advantages: Not MLS, LS accuracy+Speed (eat alot of crispic and keep FS2 on at all times) Low Force compared to double mastery.



Message Edited by dubber2558 on 09-17-2005 05:25 PM






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