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Thread: Saber Research

DarthFuse
Fri Oct 21, 2005 3:02 pm
#1

This is a question to all the jedi in this community. I am currently researching saber stats for my saber crafting. I would like to know what is that highest saber min-max damage you have seen (even pre-cu). I understand many of you are most upset about publish 24 however there is nothing to do but over come it. So post your best stats and stats you've seen, i't probably won't be as high as1000+ however we will never know unless we try.
Won-eye
Fri Oct 21, 2005 3:06 pm
#2

From memory, and without pearls added and with 29% assembly theres a 10 point difference in damage between 29% and 99%

Experimenting on the damage line is a total waste of time.

We are talking about saber crafting right?



you may want to step away from the computer for a little bit?
DarthFuse
Fri Oct 21, 2005 3:08 pm
#3

Both crafting and with your tunes inside the saber. Every bit of info is vital. Ty won
Titan2000
Fri Oct 21, 2005 3:43 pm
#4



Here's screenshots of the 2 sabers I use, both are pre-cu, one is damage exp'd with all my highest damage pearls, and other is effeciency exp'd, with my best FC pearls. (Im double master and havent found FC to be much of an issue since I came back, so I feel I can afford to use higher speed/damage pearls).


4th gen pre-cu damage exp'd (no pearls)

http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=331850


4th gen pre-cu effeciency exp'd (no pearls)

http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=331851


4th gen pre-cu damage exp'd (with pearls)

http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=331852


4th gen pre-cu effeciency exp'd (with pearls)

http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=331853



Sorry, too tired to clicky em...

Those 2 sabers were made with the best resources available at the time just a few days befoer the CU, and were used with those critical assembly tools from the village to guarantee amazing successes. Certainly not the best pearls available, the ones in the damage exp'd saber were... 120/-7, 120/-6, 112/-9, 112/-7 i think., and in the eff one, 112/-9, 108/-9, 108/-9, and i have a 3rd 108/-9 around somewhere, but ive lost it it seems till then there's a 93/-9 in there I think. All flawless pearls pre-cu.


I'm sure there are better sabers around, lower FC, faster, a bit more damage etc, but i I think these are still pretty decent. I was accused of speed exploiting while using that damage exp'd saber only earlier today.


Hope its of some use, and I hope you can read em, had to cut down the size to fit em on imagedump


**EDIT**: Old pics were too messy couldnt see them proper, so cut out the crap around them and just showed the stats, no need to lower qual then, should be an easier read

Message Edited by Titan2000 on 10-22-2005 01:10 AM





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Obi-Tu
Fri Oct 21, 2005 3:48 pm
#5

4th gen pre-cu damage exp'd (with pearls)

http://www.imagedump.com/index.cgi?pick=get&tp=331835



i would use this one



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Titan2000
Fri Oct 21, 2005 4:13 pm
#6

Im a bit confused as to why the adk message is at the top of one saber and at the bottom of the other, mayeb because one was done pre-cu, other was given adk post-cu? I dunno. Just thought i'd mention it incase some1 asked, looks a bit weird.





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swiperTfox
Fri Oct 21, 2005 4:21 pm
#7

back in the day sabers used to deal kinitic dammage and it was like 1500 dammage normally man i would give anything to see those days agian.
Titan2000
Fri Oct 21, 2005 4:37 pm
#8






swiperTfox wrote:
back in the day sabers used to deal kinitic dammage and it was like 1500 dammage normally man i would give anything to see those days agian.






I remember those times


32 professions amstered on my main to finally get that unlock message.


Runnign around in comp, having only crappy crystals, insane decay on sabers, but medium AP super high damage kinetic sabers and 90% armor! true, we had crappy force bars, and hugh force costs, but we had every skill wrapped into one profession that went from initiate->padawan->apprentice(dark/light choice here, forced rebel b4 that)->knight->guardian->guardian4444(couldnt reach master cos it needed 620 AP we could never get rofl, best bug ever).


Was great though, but saber tefs hurt.







0000000000000000000000000000
0 Titanius- Master of the Blades
00000000000000000000000000000 SCO of MDU
00000000000000000000000000000 Qivittoq- PowerRanger
00000000000000000000000000000 Cepheid - 12pts AS (RIS Cert)
00000000000000000000000000000 "When 900 ping u reach play as good u will not"
PFD
Fri Oct 21, 2005 4:43 pm
#9

Current saber ADK'd and just made a short time ago as MLS with a +20 suit on,I also have 4404 in FS craft line.


sac 95 damage 150-250 base, FC 34 speed 3.31


This is before putting any type of crystal in the saber. and using bespin port and pyrollian cake at the right times .Got an Amazing on assy. and the first 2 times i put 4 points a shot into experimentation for reducing sac and fc took 9 points to get to sac 95 ,others into speed and damage also got amazings.



The BAD part is this saber with 12 points and better resources used in its creation was only marginally better then the respec 0004 LS saberI made a long time ago. (sac 100 vs. 95) damage almost exact same but speed is much slower 3.32 vs.2.88 almost wish I'd kept the old one.


Saber crafting is a real waste since our ONLY weapon cannot even come close to ANY other player crafted elite weapon.


My alt will be played a lot and my Jedi my become a down and out space miner.


Titan2000
Fri Oct 21, 2005 4:49 pm
#10






PFD wrote:

Current saber ADK'd and just made a short time ago as MLS with a +20 suit on,I also have 4404 in FS craft line.


sac 95 damage 150-250 base, FC 34 speed 3.31


This is before putting any type of crystal in the saber. and using bespin port and pyrollian cake at the right times .Got an Amazing on assy. and the first 2 times i put 4 points a shot into experimentation for reducing sac and fc took 9 points to get to sac 95 ,others into speed and damage also got amazings.



The BAD part is this saber with 12 points and better resources used in its creation was only marginally better then the respec 0004 LS saberI made a long time ago. (sac 100 vs. 95) damage almost exact same but speed is much slower 3.32 vs.2.88 almost wish I'd kept the old one.


Saber crafting is a real waste since our ONLY weapon cannot even come close to ANY other player crafted elite weapon.


My alt will be played a lot and my Jedi my become a down and out space miner.







Umm is this seriously accurate? if so, I need me that same suit and buffs, cos that'd give me -5FC on my saber (id gain force per hit?), currently my 4x -9FC pearls take away 39FC (48 down to 9), so im assuming they are all in the region of -9.9FC.



I'm guessing this was a mistake? Or was it a 3rd gen saber? then I could understand that, but surely not a 4th gen?


Message Edited by Titan2000 on 10-22-2005 01:51 AM





0000000000000000000000000000
0 Titanius- Master of the Blades
00000000000000000000000000000 SCO of MDU
00000000000000000000000000000 Qivittoq- PowerRanger
00000000000000000000000000000 Cepheid - 12pts AS (RIS Cert)
00000000000000000000000000000 "When 900 ping u reach play as good u will not"
DarthFuse
Sat Oct 22, 2005 6:30 pm
#11

Excellent information guys. those last two saber picks are amazing. Most other jedi believe it's impossible to obtain. I was siick of hearing it so i decided to do this research. There's gotta be something we are doing wrong and i think we aren't trying enough when it comes to our weapons. We just expect them to be great when we make em, but lack doing any research on the weapon. Ty all for the info
TT1
Sat Oct 22, 2005 6:55 pm
#12






PFD wrote:

Current saber ADK'd and just made a short time ago as MLS with a +20 suit on,I also have 4404 in FS craft line.


sac 95 damage 150-250 base, FC 34 speed 3.31


This is before putting any type of crystal in the saber. and using bespin port and pyrollian cake at the right times .Got an Amazing on assy. and the first 2 times i put 4 points a shot into experimentation for reducing sac and fc took 9 points to get to sac 95 ,others into speed and damage also got amazings.



The BAD part is this saber with 12 points and better resources used in its creation was only marginally better then the respec 0004 LS saberI made a long time ago. (sac 100 vs. 95) damage almost exact same but speed is much slower 3.32 vs.2.88 almost wish I'd kept the old one.


Saber crafting is a real waste since our ONLY weapon cannot even come close to ANY other player crafted elite weapon.


My alt will be played a lot and my Jedi my become a down and out space miner.







Lol i'm assuming that's a typo, since FC cap is 48 .



Basicly a goodPost CU saber has:least 600 max damage, 100 sac, under 25 fc. This is not perfect saber, but Post-Cu this is a realistic one.



Currently i use a fc48, sac 100 saber. I exp'd 8 points in eff and 2 on speed. This is with xxx4 LS line and +25 suit.


I just got crappy crystals, so my max damage is at 478. lol


Titan2000
Sun Oct 23, 2005 4:40 am
#13






TT1 wrote:



Basicly a goodPost CU saber has:least 600 max damage, 100 sac, under 25 fc. This is not perfect saber, but Post-Cu this is a realistic one.



Currently i use a fc48, sac 100 saber. I exp'd 8 points in eff and 2 on speed. This is with xxx4 LS line and +25 suit.


I just got crappy crystals, so my max damage is at 478. lol







Yeah, sounds about right on my server too, with the way pearl drops are atm, seems a 600damage saber is something thats nearly impossible reach, never mind 700+



When I made my sabers I was MLS, pre CU of course. These days I cant come close to what I made pre-cu, although I dont have a 12pt crafting suit (yet! ). Im still sure that even with the better steel that spawned since the CU I wont come close to what I have now.



Lucky for me Im not limited to polearms either, I made an effeciency and damage exp'd 4th gen 2-hander and 1-hander too, so I have the choice of 6 sabers if I really need, although only my 2 polearms have ADK's in em. If i can find them later, Ill put up links to to 1st/2nd/3rd gen sabers from pre-cu aswell, although I wont have any damage exp'd ones



**EDIT**: I am the king of typos

Message Edited by Titan2000 on 10-23-2005 01:48 PM





0000000000000000000000000000
0 Titanius- Master of the Blades
00000000000000000000000000000 SCO of MDU
00000000000000000000000000000 Qivittoq- PowerRanger
00000000000000000000000000000 Cepheid - 12pts AS (RIS Cert)
00000000000000000000000000000 "When 900 ping u reach play as good u will not"
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