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I tried... I guess I'm one of those short bus riders, as I've read over and over in these forums. I made Master Ranger and gave it a whirl. I just don't see the value. As a group member my camps are cool but that's about it. I provide NOTHING else to the group... NOTHING. The /areatrack is basically worthless, same with traps and the fact that I can barely harvest 2x the amount of the NOVICE SCOUT(at 0/0/0/0) the profession is nothing more than a hologrind for most. You guys wonder why everyone goes BH? Give me a break, it's common sense. As the profession is today, it's the best of both worlds. Deny it all you want but it's true.

I think if most of you were honest with yourselves rather than seeing the Ranger class as your life's mission, you'd drop it as well until the devs fix it. Again, if it worked like it is supposed to and added things that scout doesn't have, then I'd stay but it doesn't. I'm a realist not a dreamer... See you around... Let me see. Good riddance, we're better off without you, yadda yadda yadda... Let the flames commence.

Well if we leave then what is the point of the dev's fixin the proffesion? In the beginning everyone wanted to be a BH. Myself included. It was unbelievably hard with no payfor missions, well let me say the pay was good, but after replacing droids that hardly ever worked, bounties spawning in the middle of the water, if they spawned at all, and the fact that you also have to pay for your travel, you were left with little money.

It was very rare that you saw a Master Bounty Hunter. But the ones that were Master stuck it out, and they got some of their gripes fixed.

You make it sound like we started this game to be only Rangers, without trying anything else. With so many professions to choose from its really hard to do that. With my limited playing time being military, I have tried Artisan, Medic, Brawler, Pistoleer(1/1/1/1), Carbineer , BH (2/2/1/3), and even Entertainer. Being a Ranger fits my playing style, being a Rifleman also I can solo about anything, even with out armour, if I use the right tactics.

Also when they fix the profession, everybody will want to be us. Nobody wanted to be a BH until they got fixed.

Like I said before, if we all gave it up, then what is there to fix?

Same goes for BH's, if nobody bitched it wouldn't have gotten fixed.

Same with all other professions. That would would leave what for game?

So like all the other "I'm leaving posts", why do people do it? Self gratification? Maybe someone will miss me?

If you are going to leave, say "Bye" and bail.

No_Ni:

I hadn't thought of a lot of the points you made in your post. You really showed us.

I think you are totally correct, we are pointless... I'm going to go BH on my alt now, and give up the whole ranger deal altogether.

Thanks man, I appreciate you setting me straight.

/bizarroworld off

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Puck_Starfire wrote:

Ummm how are we broke? What more do you want? We're Rangers LOL. What more is there to do than throw traps, harvest hide and bone, and make camps? Maybe I have the word 'Ranger' mixed up with another word, but I'm sure in every game in every genre, that's what most Rangers do.

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There is the problem, other games, other genre. There is a history with Rangers in SW:EU already that can be used. They are not the stealth unit in other games, but they are in this one. Devs are vehemently opposed to this because of thier experiance with other griefing. Therefore the role gets molded to the other games role.

We are not broke perse but we are a mear shadow of what other professions contribute. Others, with no emotional attatchment to the prof or try to analyize it to eek out maximal potential - only to find the max is far short of others - will not choose this prof and is in danger of becomming a joke. There has to be something that "hooks" and fancy grafting, fancy camps, offers of much harvesting and such (they really need to have farmers and herders instead for that mainstay) will not help this prof in the end.

You have heard me say this before, for this profession to have equity AND the continuity in the EU we have to be a stealth unit. Not just a modeled one, one that actually lets all know it. BH's; you know they are the death dealer, that fact is up front and in your face. You know the Commando is now the heavy weapons guy and your area killer (ironically, the Rifleman is getting that rep too, not sure I am comfortable with that). What we are now is the Bantha herder, the farmer... that needs a combat prof. I am not comfortable with that ether.

How we get there can be debated... but get there we must. I'm willing to wait for it however. It's painfully obvious others are not.

hope you find the perfect template for you no-ni...

good hunting and take care

did JBMat already ask for your stuff? If not, can i have it?

I was on my way to Bounty hunter at first (wasn't everybody) and decided to try the Ranger profession as a sideline whilst I built up the ridiculous 40,000 combat exp.

I was hooked, and decided to go all the way to Master Ranger which I am now, and loving every minute of it

I like playing as a Ranger as it is now, and even though I know we need a lot of improvements, when they do finally happen, i'll be one REALLY happy gamer.

My best friend is a Bounty hunter and when i'm online he always asks for my assistance in tracking his marks cos' his droids are so crap, and the B/H profession is still bugged, we took a mission last night, travelled all the way to Endor, found the target, only for him to be an NPC that you CAN'T ATTACK, only converse with or examine

Plus my friend is always complaining about his targets not spawning, droids failing etc. As a ranger I tend to work for other players,harvesting meat for doctors and chefs etc. it's far more rewarding than just taking missions from a terminal I can tell you

Almost my story exactly Spoff, I tried ranger as a sideline to BH, and found that I was having too much fun being a dirty ranger, so I quit BH and went out and had some fun

No-Ni

You posted in this forum that you were "close" to Master Ranger on the 6th, and have just said you are giving it up on the 9th........

How long have you actually been a Master Ranger? seems to me you are giving it up without actually finding out the advantages.

Once you have "Master Ranger" above your head you are in constant demand from other players, (at least I am) Tracking creatures for Creature handlers, leading hunt groups, harvesting resources, tracking rare creatures on hunts......

All these things are required of you from OTHER PLAYERS, like I said, in my book this beats having to repeatedly scour the mission terminals for crappy low paid lair clear-outs any day

but I suppose it all depends on what you want from the game......good luck in whatever you decide to do next M8

Spoff

Thanks for the best wishes...

One last ditch to explain my plight. You're right, I gave it all of 4 days to prove itself but remember, it's taken me a month or so to get here so it's not like I have no experience with Rangering. The last branch I added was the Wayfaring line which I found to be somewhat useful but like most everything in the Ranger trees the skill never quite turned out as cool as it was described.

Good point about demand for Rangers. I have been through that several times where a CH asks me to find a creature and I spend 2 hours dealing with the inadequacy of the /areatrack command. The demand for hides and meat is good as well but seeing as though a Novice Scout at 0/0/0/0 can harvest just over HALF the hide as a Master Ranger, the benefit is just not there.

Sorry for the downer but again, I can do all of those things that a Ranger does with a Swoop and Novice Scout skills. Drive around looking for mob spawns hitting TAB to id the creatures. I can cover a huge area in circles and find whatever I want. And as for harvesting, so I have to kill twice the animals to get the same hide? I've saved over 128 character points in doing so if I choose... There are so many people that pick up Novice Scout just because of this fact... They can create adequate camps to spawn their creatures or swoops and they can harvest hides/meat to sell. The rest of the stuff is mostly broken.

One thing that has been abundantly missing in all of these replies to my posts is a good list of benefits to going Master Ranger as opposed to just having Scout. Just a bunch of heartfelt sentiment about the connection most of you feel to it. Help me understand the benefits. I'm all ears. When they fix the class I WILL be back, but until then, I'll explore other classes.

Cheers..

Ummm how are we broke? What more do you want? We're Rangers LOL. What more is there to do than throw traps, harvest hide and bone, and make camps? Maybe I have the word 'Ranger' mixed up with another word, but I'm sure in every game in every genre, that's what most Rangers do.

Oh well buh bye. I'm happy being a Ranger. Maybe no 'use' in the game, but to some of us it's more than just a set of skills.

(btw, I did the BH thing and hated it. I found that more boring than grinding Droid Engineer.....)

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I have no desire to become a commando or a bounty hunter.

You know what? Just because all of you want me to move on, I'm not going to! I'm going to remain a Ranger and share the discontent with my brothers!

Take that.

What a difference 3 days make... I think most BH's could be the poster child for ADD. So indecisive and quick to lose interest.

(to anyone who suffers from ADD, it's a joke, my apologies in advance )

Message Edited by Puck_Starfire on 02-09-2004 03:30 AM