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Thread: Need some explanation

ih8modem
Fri Sep 02, 2005 3:38 am
#1


I noticed that my saber seemed extremely slow this morning, so I did some tests, with base attacks only. I am only looking at speed, nothing else.


Weapons used, saber , pistol (fwg5) , rifle (Adv Laser).


Targets, lesser plains bols, level 78 - I am lvl 80.


Weapon stats

Saber

Speed 2.58 , Modified speed 1.68

Pistol

Speed 2.02 , Modified speed 1.86

Rifle

Speed 2.75 , Modified speed 2.53


Char mods :

Saber 2h speed 75 , General melee speed 12 -total 87

Pistol speed 0 , General ranged speed 12 - total 12

Rifle speed 0 , General ranged speed 12 - total 12


Attacked a bol using only the base shots/hits. Here are the results (just going to post 4 lines from each)


Saber

10:50:52Player attacks a lesser plains bol with Saber Hit using 2h 4G SAC and hits for 399 points (303 points of energy damage and 96 points of heat damage)

10:50:56Player attacks a lesser plains bol with Saber Hit using 2h 4G SAC and hits for 399 points (303 points of energy damage and 96 points of heat damage)

10:50:59Player attacks a lesser plains bol with Saber Hit using 2h 4G SAC and hits for 399 points (303 points of energy damage and 96 points of heat damage)
10:51:03Player attacks a lesser plains bol with Saber Hit using 2h 4G SAC and hits for 399 points (303 points of energy damage and 96 points of heat damage)

Pistol

10:49:23Player attacks a lesser plains bol with Ranged Shot using Featherweight FWG5 Pistol [Special Edition] [AT] and hits for 322 points (322 points of kinetic
10:49:26Player attacks a lesser plains bol with Ranged Shot using Featherweight FWG5 Pistol [Special Edition] [AT] and hits for 322 points (322 points of kinetic
10:49:29Player attacks a lesser plains bol with Ranged Shot using Featherweight FWG5 Pistol [Special Edition] [AT] and hits for 322 points (322 points of kinetic
10:49:32Player attacks a lesser plains bol with Ranged Shot using Featherweight FWG5 Pistol [Special Edition] [AT] and hits for 322 points (322 points of kinetic

Rifle

10:49:58Player attacks a lesser plains bol with Ranged Shot using Advanced Laser Rifle M979 SAC84 { } and hits for 419 points (419 points of energy damage).

10:50:02Player attacks a lesser plains bol with Ranged Shot using Advanced Laser Rifle M979 SAC84 { } and hits for 419 points (419 points of energy damage).

10:50:05Player attacks a lesser plains bol with Ranged Shot using Advanced Laser Rifle M979 SAC84 { } and hits for 419 points (419 points of energy damage).
10:50:09Player attacks a lesser plains bol with Ranged Shot using Advanced Laser Rifle M979 SAC84 { } and hits for 419 points (419 points of energy damage).


So as can be seen from above, my saber, which is the fastest weapon I own, with the best skill mods, is hitting slower than the other 2 weapons. I then added force speed (improved version)


Saber with Imp Force Speed

10:53:22You begin to move with an unnatural speed.
10:53:25Player attacks a lesser plains bol with Saber Hit using 2h 4G SAC and hits for 399 points (303 points of energy damage and 96 points of heat damage).
10:53:28Player attacks a lesser plains bol with Saber Hit using 2h 4G SAC and hits for 399 points (303 points of energy damage and 96 points of heat damage).
10:53:31Player attacks a lesser plains bol with Saber Hit using 2h 4G SAC and hits for 399 points (303 points of energy damage and 96 points of heat damage).
10:53:34Player attacks a lesser plains bol with Saber Hit using 2h 4G SAC and hits for 399 points (303 points of energy damage and 96 points of heat damage).

So some improvement there for sure. I did not think to try the pistol / rifle with imp force speed. I then tried removing all my crystals and replacing them into my saber, here are the results :


Saber after crystal replacement
10:55:31Player attacks a lesser plains bol with Saber Hit using 2h 4G SAC and hits for 399 points (303 points of energy damage and 96 points of heat damage).
10:55:34Player attacks a lesser plains bol with Saber Hit using 2h 4G SAC and hits for 399 points (303 points of energy damage and 96 points of heat damage).
10:55:37Player attacks a lesser plains bol with Saber Hit using 2h 4G SAC and misses.
10:55:40Player attacks a lesser plains bol with Saber Hit using 2h 4G SAC and hits for 399 points (303 points of energy damage and 96 points of heat damage).


So even after replacing the crystals, my saber hit is averaging 3 seconds or more. Are the base hits really supposed to be this slow ?


It got me thinking that the speed of the weapons are really not an accurate reflection of how often you can hit, the move cooldowns actually dictate this.


So my question to you is .... What does the speed actually indicate? The weapon re-use time regardless of what attack / special attack was used?






Message Edited by ih8modem on 09-02-2005 11:52 AM





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ih8modem
Fri Sep 02, 2005 4:03 am
#2

I just went out and slapped a lvl 42 Graul Mauler around to test the speed between my hits, if I alternate saber hit and imp mind hit


11:58:07 Player attacks a graul mauler with Improved Saber Head Hit using 2h 4G SAC and hits for 953 points
11:58:10 Player attacks a graul mauler with Saber Hit using 2h 4G SAC and hits for 590 points
11:58:12 Player attacks a graul mauler with Improved Saber Head Hit using 2h 4G SAC and hits for 953 points
11:58:15 Player attacks a graul mauler with Saber Hit using 2h 4G SAC and hits for 590 points
11:58:17 Player attacks a graul mauler with Improved Saber Head Hit using 2h 4G SAC and hits for 953 points
11:58:20 Player attacks a graul mauler with Saber Hit using 2h 4G SAC and hits for 590 points
11:58:23 Player attacks a graul mauler with Improved Saber Head Hit using 2h 4G SAC and hits for 953 points






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Combat Prowess 4-4-4-4Enhanced Reflexes 4-0-0-4
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