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Thread: Saber damage experimentation not worth it.

Gillik
Thu Sep 22, 2005 11:25 pm
#1

Just wanted to test out a theory of mine to see once i get master saber if I should spend my points on Efficiency or damage experimentation


My saber base values. Saber made at 0404 sabers


Dam 153-258

SAC 130

FPC 53

ATK 3.43



Test SAC saber bese values Saber made at 4444 sabers


Dam 147-244

SAC107

FPC 49

ATK 3.41



Personally I'm shocked at these values.


Min diff 6

Max diff 14

FPC 4

SAC 23



ATK wasnt a big difference due to regular crafting differences.


It seems to me that it would be more efficient to drop all my experimentation points into SAC. Seeing that the saber crystals will make more of a difference.











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MasterSheep
Thu Sep 22, 2005 11:47 pm
#2

absolutely correct - as a former WS i can tell you that sac experimentation is critical to a good saber



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BoiSlimShady
Thu Sep 22, 2005 11:52 pm
#3



MasterSheep wrote:
absolutely correct - as a former WS i can tell you that sac experimentation is critical to a good saber





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Gillik
Thu Sep 22, 2005 11:54 pm
#4






BoiSlimShady wrote:





MasterSheep wrote:

absolutely correct - as a former WS i can tell you that sac experimentation is critical to a good saber







QFE





Could had told me sooner Sheep. So I didnt have to blow those resources.


But eh. Was hoping that experimental damage would had showed at least some difference. Guess all my master points with a crafting suit would go into Efficiency.


90 SAC here I come.






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BoiSlimShady
Thu Sep 22, 2005 11:59 pm
#5



Gillik wrote:


BoiSlimShady wrote:


MasterSheep wrote:
absolutely correct - as a former WS i can tell you that sac experimentation is critical to a good saber





QFE


Could had told me sooner Sheep. So I didnt have to blow those resources.
But eh. Was hoping that experimental damage would had showed at least some difference. Guess all my master points with a crafting suit would go into Efficiency.
90 SAC here I come.





95 is cap I think. With suit, you should be able to cap SAC and put some else where.



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MasterSheep
Fri Sep 23, 2005 12:08 pm
#6

95 sac cap - and then the rest of your points into damage or speed - wherever your pearls are weakest



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Skwall
Fri Sep 23, 2005 12:09 pm
#7

I've played around w/ experimentation on my saber. I personally don't think Damage is completely useless. Actually I have 2 versions of my saber, one is my regula r"pwnage" saber and the other is my Big PVP saber. My massive PVP saber is mostly experimented on damage and marginal SAC of 103. W/ that said, in big PVP fights you're never to the point where you are attacking 100% of the time as in duels or PVE.


Some times you're running to heal or for cover, or you're chasing someone so SAC isn't of much importance whereas 10-12extra damage isn't unwelcomed.


I wouldn't recommend "noob sabers" doing this, this is more of the added beefage to your already good saber, but that's just me and my playstyle.





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Gillik
Fri Sep 23, 2005 12:12 pm
#8






MasterSheep wrote:
95 sac cap - and then the rest of your points into damage or speed - wherever your pearls are weakest





Oh cant u guess where my pearls would b weakest at. Damage straight up. Just needing better tunes.






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perfavorebasta
Fri Sep 23, 2005 12:14 pm
#9

Best way to craft a saber in my opinion is:


Cap in efficiency with 9 exp points (need at last 1 large amazing roll)


Put 3 exp points in dmg (not in speed). You may ask why dmg and not speed as more or less what you can gain in DPS is the same. Faster with less dmg or slower with more damage, right?


Answer: The elemental dmg works on the max damage of the saber, so you gain a few more points going to dmg. In my case the elemental raises from 202 to 204 adding the 3 exp points to dmg.


Basically you need to have skill tapes for saber speed (broken atm) and for general melee speed (still debating if these are borken or not).


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ctexe
Fri Sep 23, 2005 12:19 pm
#10

With Eclipse resourses and WS buff i managed to do this with my 10 points.

8 Points into Efficiency = 97 sac and 48 fc (i finally got an amazing succes).
2 Points into Damage = Since modified speed isn't working and i attack once every 2nd sec anyway, i thought i'd might as well hit a little harder.

Saber ended up like this:

48 FC
246 max damage (can't remember min )
97 sac

Pretty decent i'd say, don't think i can get anymore out of it without a 12 point suit.
Imo going for 95 sac isn't really needed, cause if your buffed up with say mando wine and booster blue and doc buff - you will have to fight LONG time before your pool is dry.

Anyway just thought i'd share, don't know if it helps actually



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Gillik
Fri Sep 23, 2005 12:25 pm
#11

Yeah. I was already figuring stuff out. RIght now my biggest problem is bad tunes. But thats been alot of peoples problems. Good thing is is that I have been going out soloing krayts on my alt for pearls. Tired of wasting millions on pearls.






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BountysFear
Fri Sep 23, 2005 12:34 pm
#12

10 in eff, 2 in damage >_>
48 FC, 250 damage. good stuff.



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Gillik
Sat Sep 24, 2005 12:13 am
#13

Yeah, Im 800k away from master sabers n my friend is gonna let me borrow his guilds crafting suit.






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