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Thread: The devs KNEW the new SL buffs would be abused by BH's...

MikeHeXt
Sat Oct 22, 2005 1:20 pm
#1

So why were they pushed live? They were mentioning publish 24 in early september, right as I left for New Orleans to help with the relief. Before I left, I KNOW it was addressed the fact that BH's would openly abuse the SL buffs in order to kill Jedi. They knew this when it was a concept. They knew this when it was in testing (for the long period that it spent on TC.) And now they know it on live, so why isn't this being fixed? It's not right that BH's can use these buffs, and buffs of their friends without being a squad leader to hammer into Jedi and 1shot them.

As I say this, I have not died to one of these guys (or ANY BH for that matter), but it's making me weary to login my Jedi. I already had enough trouble with CM/BH's that could fight me forever and not show a dent. Combine these guys with the new BH rifle coming out in a few days, and overall, we're screwed. BH is the new Alpha class. So in closing, SOE KNEW this would be abused, and I'm sure we brought it up with the Corro. So why was this pushed live? :/

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Hass1234567
Sat Oct 22, 2005 1:24 pm
#2

devs dont give a toss about us tbh



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maqsbro1
Sat Oct 22, 2005 1:25 pm
#3

I already know a template to kill any jedi with the new SL abilities, I just think SOE are plain dumb and that nerfs jedi even more...and it abuses the whole idea of jedi defending themselves, only problem is grinding it but that doesn't take that long either




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PeakDantu
Sat Oct 22, 2005 1:32 pm
#4






MikeHeXt wrote:
So why were they pushed live? They were mentioning publish 24 in early september, right as I left for New Orleans to help with the relief. Before I left, I KNOW it was addressed the fact that BH's would openly abuse the SL buffs in order to kill Jedi. They knew this when it was a concept. They knew this when it was in testing (for the long period that it spent on TC.) And now they know it on live, so why isn't this being fixed? It's not right that BH's can use these buffs, and buffs of their friends without being a squad leader to hammer into Jedi and 1shot them.

As I say this, I have not died to one of these guys (or ANY BH for that matter), but it's making me weary to login my Jedi. I already had enough trouble with CM/BH's that could fight me forever and not show a dent. Combine these guys with the new BH rifle coming out in a few days, and overall, we're screwed. BH is the new Alpha class. So in closing, SOE KNEW this would be abused, and I'm sure we brought it up with the Corro. So why was this pushed live? :/

::Sigh:: Devs don't play the game. Devs don't care about the game. We're screwed. My lightsaber is just a bug zapper, the only thing missing is the plug. Maybe that's why it's not powerful.



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KJFett3
Sat Oct 22, 2005 1:43 pm
#5

Group up with a SL and getyour own buffs. Shall we nerf Docs next because MBHs can get doc buffs and attack us jedi when we don't have them?


In addition to having a pre9 jedi, I am also a verteran SL. When I have the SL on, I have buffs going and give high profile jedi individual buffs like "toughen". They don't get one shot..in fact, most of the BHs that attack them go down rather fast. The difference now is that MBHs are finding out they can alpha strike (something they could always do before but most never seemed to bother) instead of being a MCM. This allows diversity in the BH ranks and makes it harder for the majority of jedi to adapt to each style of BH that hunts them now.


SL isn't the real danger. No, the real danger is in this snare debuff nerf. I can snare/KD jedi to death rather quickly before they even get to me...and I'm not a BH. My jedi is a ME. I wont log him in till its adjusted. How sad that a Novice rifleman special can take my master level buff away.





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Hass1234567
Sat Oct 22, 2005 1:45 pm
#6






PeakDantu wrote:





MikeHeXt wrote:
So why were they pushed live? They were mentioning publish 24 in early september, right as I left for New Orleans to help with the relief. Before I left, I KNOW it was addressed the fact that BH's would openly abuse the SL buffs in order to kill Jedi. They knew this when it was a concept. They knew this when it was in testing (for the long period that it spent on TC.) And now they know it on live, so why isn't this being fixed? It's not right that BH's can use these buffs, and buffs of their friends without being a squad leader to hammer into Jedi and 1shot them.

As I say this, I have not died to one of these guys (or ANY BH for that matter), but it's making me weary to login my Jedi. I already had enough trouble with CM/BH's that could fight me forever and not show a dent. Combine these guys with the new BH rifle coming out in a few days, and overall, we're screwed. BH is the new Alpha class. So in closing, SOE KNEW this would be abused, and I'm sure we brought it up with the Corro. So why was this pushed live? :/

::Sigh:: Devs don't play the game. Devs don't care about the game. We're screwed. My lightsaber is just a bug zapper, the only thing missing is the plug. Maybe that's why it's not powerful.



OMG you are soooooo ubah!!!






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SlaserX
Sat Oct 22, 2005 1:48 pm
#7

I dont think dismissing the SL buffs entirely is the route to go. These give huge advantages to the BHs.


Compare the two situations:


If I'm a SL and I group with a Jedi to help defend against BHs, what do I stand to gain? Nothing

If I'm a SL and I group with a BH to attack Jedis, what do I stand to gain? Lots and lots of money


I think the answer is clear.



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xakia
Sat Oct 22, 2005 1:51 pm
#8

The sad thing is about 90% of all Jedi forget they can snare a Bounty Hunter just the same. The skills are available. Only difference is...a snared BH is gonna have a far worse time with it.


The thing with the sniper shot is...its always been there. I don't care if an SL Riflemen does 9343934 damage on the alpha strike. A regular Riflemen can take you out just as fast without the SL buffs. Been there. Done that. Nothing new. Move along.





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KJFett3
Sat Oct 22, 2005 1:53 pm
#9






SlaserX wrote:

I dont think dismissing the SL buffs entirely is the route to go. These give huge advantages to the BHs.


Compare the two situations:


If I'm a SL and I group with a Jedi to help defend against BHs, what do I stand to gain? Nothing

If I'm a SL and I group with a BH to attack Jedis, what do I stand to gain? Lots and lots of money


I think the answer is clear.





lol Lots and lots of money? please. That's just about the lamest excuse to nerf SL I have ever seen....because SLs could make money!!1!!11!! LikeOMG!


I didn't say to dismiss them did I. I said to go get some. Most SLs aren't SLs for money. If we wanted creds, we would become BHs and run PVE missions all night.



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PeakDantu
Sat Oct 22, 2005 1:55 pm
#10






SlaserX wrote:

I dont think dismissing the SL buffs entirely is the route to go. These give huge advantages to the BHs.


Compare the two situations:


If I'm a SL and I group with a Jedi to help defend against BHs, what do I stand to gain? Nothing

If I'm a SL and I group with a BH to attack Jedis, what do I stand to gain? Lots and lots of money


I think the answer is clear.






ALL jedi have a second account, and most jedi tend to be in guilds with lots of other jedi. I'm sure most large guilds will soon have several MSL, if they don't already. All it takes is a little TEAM work.




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wildcat84
Sat Oct 22, 2005 1:56 pm
#11

Tiggs implied that Pub 24 was released when it was because of TIME issues.

The fault isn't hers, it isn't the Devs, it's the PRODUCERS, the people who set the requirments and the schedule. Quit giving her and the devs a hard time, it's not their fault.

Once again we take it in the pants due to an artificially set release schedule for an expansion, due to pathetic management. Julio Torres, Grant McDaniel and Dallas Dickinson, those are the names you need to remember.



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RJUK
Sat Oct 22, 2005 1:58 pm
#12






Hass1234567 wrote:

devs dont give a toss about us tbh





You hit the nail on the head there



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KJFett3
Sat Oct 22, 2005 1:59 pm
#13






RJUK wrote:






Hass1234567 wrote:

devs dont give a toss about us tbh





You hit the nail on the head there





Ironically, I don't think any side is argueing that either.



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