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Thread: Petition to Help Master Enhancers and Healers
DarthCheng wrote:
since the cu master enhancers even with fa2 on cant stand up to even someone with a 400 max saber that has mdef or even a hybrid with just aurafor more then a few hits with out having to use steak or getting away and most of the time this doesnt even help. master healer because of even less defense is even more worthless in the cu. my petition is to add a lightsaber toughness like pre cu that gave these profs a chance to stand up to mdef and the hybrid temps of defender that seems to be required to pvp well. know this might not be heard by the devs but if anyone that is also a master enhancer or healer that agrees with me plz sign this and let them see how we feel. maybe for a change they will listen to the customer.
M enhancer is awsome, when played right. Stasis is and incredible skill. Say your fighting a person(s) runing macro just wait for there aura and or infusion to turn on stasis and just stand ther till it wears off. Macro is now usless and chances are they don't turn itauraback on( if they do there macro still broekn and they haveto do it manualy and i don't know anyone tahtdoes anymore...)
Back on FA2 is 40 innate armor inciate is 20 = 60 ( personaly i ahve nov deff just for the extra 10 innate) so you close you M deff innate armor.. so you on level playing field just save your KD for when its usefull.
Same works for ranged proffs don't need to worry about kiting if you FR3 stasis turn on FR3 root and just rip them up.
Aogrr wrote:
DarthCheng wrote:
since the cu master enhancers even with fa2 on cant stand up to even someone with a 400 max saber that has mdef or even a hybrid with just aurafor more then a few hits with out having to use steak or getting away and most of the time this doesnt even help. master healer because of even less defense is even more worthless in the cu. my petition is to add a lightsaber toughness like pre cu that gave these profs a chance to stand up to mdef and the hybrid temps of defender that seems to be required to pvp well. know this might not be heard by the devs but if anyone that is also a master enhancer or healer that agrees with me plz sign this and let them see how we feel. maybe for a change they will listen to the customer.
M enhancer is awsome, when played right. Stasis is and incredible skill. Say your fighting a person(s) runing macro just wait for there aura and or infusion to turn on stasis and just stand ther till it wears off. Macro is now usless and chances are they don't turn itauraback on( if they do there macro still broekn and they haveto do it manualy and i don't know anyone tahtdoes anymore...)
Back on FA2 is 40 innate armor inciate is 20 = 60 ( personaly i ahve nov deff just for the extra 10 innate) so you close you M deff innate armor.. so you on level playing field just save your KD for when its usefull.
Same works for ranged proffs don't need to worry about kiting if you FR3 stasis turn on FR3 root and just rip them up.
okay, and against a good pvpler?
Lets say a dabbler, maybe something like ML/3402E/0040D/4040H.. They get all the working parts of our profession (-stasis) and a force run/aura to hunt down any ranged with ease (and actually kite in battles).
This was my template before i went ME. . . i have often thought of going back to it. . . If ONLY they would allow us to use FR1 instead of FR3, i would be much happier
DaniB wrote:
okay, and against a good pvpler?
Lets say a dabbler, maybe something like ML/3402E/0040D/4040H.. They get all the working parts of our profession (-stasis) and a force run/aura to hunt down any ranged with ease (and actually kite in battles).
trajen2 wrote:
DarthCheng wrote:
i agree with what most of you are saying, but i hate that unless you are a defender you have to kite. no one but a defender can stand up front with one. the fact that they have more innate over 300 more melee defense and 500 defense aura make it so that unless your a defender its pointless to try to fight up close....and last time i checked ls are melee. stasis and saber throw are great. love em my self hehe but still shouldnt be so that we also cant stand up to anyone other then someone who is same template as us.
each jedi specialty has its own style. . . like i said, i often forget that I CANNOT stand toe to toe and must use other skills to get the win. with an mls/me template, it all comes down to timing, at least for me.
If i dont land a mez when needed or get KD at the wrong time, i am screwed. There is MUCH larger margin for error in a MDef template. . .
I would still like to see the ability to use FR1 instead of FR3. . . because if you use the snare on a someone with FR1, they will still move faster than you even though you are ME. i Know, i know, just toggle FR3 off and on...this works in theory but like so many other times, the tookbar is slow to respond... how many of you ME have used FR3 to close the distance between you and your foe just to find that Fr3 didnt turn off so you're only hitting for about 120 points?
indeed i have
as for the topic of this thread, i too, as a master enhancer do not support this thread. Master Enhancer is just fine (aside from what i consider to be a joke of a tree, the resists)
Enhancer is NOT meant to stand toe to toe with a defender...if you want to stand toe to toe, go defender
they are meant to take less damage, and as stated above, there is a greater margin of error because of this resistence
if you use enhancer correctly, you can still fight any template out there, you just have to learn the template and make the right choices
i have not fought anyone that i haven't beaten. that doesn't mean i've fought everyone, or that i win every single time, but enhancer CAN beat any template
i fought a defender guildie last night, a guildie i might add, whose saber is far above mine in damage and speed (tho mine still isn't bad), i ripped him apart the first duel, he AI'ed, I stasis...i start dancing around in front of him, laughing because i KNOW that when i decide to break his stasis, he's a dead man since his aura macro has now failed and he can't fire off another AI i win.
second fight, different outcome, my stasis fails, and i can't heal quick enough
enhancer is timing, skill, and luck...you are not meant to tank with it
in reality, the template is really not even meant for 1 on 1 duels, but it still can be effective.
in large scale pvp battles, use your skills for what they are meant for, SUPPORT, call targets, roots, snares, stasis FR3 to throw in a much needed heal to someone if they are about to go down, and by all means, you get someone rooted, advance your troops and beat up your selected target
point is, enhancer is a great profession
as for healer...it could use some definite help, but i'm not a healer so i won't comment
well..nice to hear that all of you Enhancers are so glad with your template.
Im not too glad with it...since everyone can get out vehicles in no time my fr3 for escape is almost useless...at least when i need to escape when pvping and 3-4 guys come after me. before this no- time- bike- calling- patch came out i could get away (if i survived the SaberThrowKd and roots before :smileyvery-happy
. Next thing is that Stasis isnt worth a penny i mass-pvp since almost everyone is using the known exploit to break it. One-on-one is pretty good for me since we are not meant to be tanks. using the proper skills in the proper situation...u can beat almost every other template.
just my opinion...
DarthCheng wrote:
since the cu master enhancers even with fa2 on cant stand up to even someone with a 400 max saber that has mdef or even a hybrid with just aurafor more then a few hits with out having to use steak or getting away and most of the time this doesnt even help. master healer because of even less defense is even more worthless in the cu. my petition is to add a lightsaber toughness like pre cu that gave these profs a chance to stand up to mdef and the hybrid temps of defender that seems to be required to pvp well. know this might not be heard by the devs but if anyone that is also a master enhancer or healer that agrees with me plz sign this and let them see how we feel. maybe for a change they will listen to the customer.