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Thread: Help with force SAP

philiprunningsky
Thu Sep 29, 2005 11:12 am
#1


After been the unluckiest guy in the worl last night i got ganged by two bh.....Just luck for them i guess to get my mission at the same time. I did have them both on the ropes amazingly but i went down first coz no force left. But one bh was at 30% mind and the other 20%.


I am thinking of gettin force sap but i cant find any details of what the reduction is on the mind and action for both Basic and Improved SAP.


Please post anythingabout this and experiences you have had like when someone is using the likes of blop candy spiced tea with boaster blue etc. thanks

Message Edited by philiprunningsky on 09-29-2005 07:26 PM

iskareot
Thu Sep 29, 2005 1:02 pm
#2






DarkShadow1313 wrote:


Healer xx2x is 25% reduction to regen

Healer xx4x is 50% reduction to regen






But tell him that it was nerfed and with all the foods out there I have found it useless and dropped it.


I rather heal those nasty CM bleeds and Poisons... wich you can do with the xxx4 tree... I tell ya with my experience the 4004 is a safe bet right now in the game and in the FRS to come Im betting. Healing states, and bleeds -- also resisting it is a decent thing to have in healer -- Im MLS, ME 4004H





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-BuGzY-
Thu Sep 29, 2005 1:21 pm
#3






iskareot wrote:





DarkShadow1313 wrote:


Healer xx2x is 25% reduction to regen

Healer xx4x is 50% reduction to regen






But tell him that it was nerfed and with all the foods out there I have found it useless and dropped it.


I rather heal those nasty CM bleeds and Poisons... wich you can do with the xxx4 tree... I tell ya with my experience the 4004 is a safe bet right now in the game and in the FRS to come Im betting. Healing states, and bleeds -- also resisting it is a decent thing to have in healer -- Im MLS, ME 4004H






But even with foods and nerf it still would be useful no? coz imagine a food buffed bh came and u had no force sap it would be even worse regen rates no?




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daetalus
Thu Sep 29, 2005 2:50 pm
#4






DarkShadow1313 wrote:


Healer xx2x is 25% reduction to regen

Healer xx4x is 50% reduction to regen





Improved sap is only 35% reduction to action, 30% to mind for 60seconds



Imea Eliod
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iakoi
Thu Sep 29, 2005 3:20 pm
#5

No offense, but they must have been some terrible BHs or noobs. Sap won't help you much against 1 BH who is well equipped/prepared let alone 2. If they have full buffs and food/spice Sap is only a waste of time unless the fight goes on for a very long time.
philiprunningsky
Thu Sep 29, 2005 4:17 pm
#6






iskareot wrote:





DarkShadow1313 wrote:


Healer xx2x is 25% reduction to regen

Healer xx4x is 50% reduction to regen






But tell him that it was nerfed and with all the foods out there I have found it useless and dropped it.


I rather heal those nasty CM bleeds and Poisons... wich you can do with the xxx4 tree... I tell ya with my experience the 4004 is a safe bet right now in the game and in the FRS to come Im betting. Healing states, and bleeds -- also resisting it is a decent thing to have in healer -- Im MLS, ME 4004H






But even with foods and nerf it still would be useful no? coz imagine a food buffed bh came and u had no force sap it would be even worse regen rates no?



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Ok thanks so far



So is SAP bugged or not???? if so what is the bug????


I take it aswell if u can dish out enough dam to at least keep them healing u can kill them quick. even if they are buffed up to death with food etc

RawNemesis
Thu Sep 29, 2005 4:23 pm
#7

k...tested this the other night with a jedi buddy....


My friend drained his action completely ( no food, no buffs...) and we timed it for full regen


No Sap was approx. 36 secs for regen


Sap on....approx 45 secs for regen.



For the math handicapped...9 secs/36 secs is 25% increase in regen time...



Haven't tested mind as that would take a lot longer...figured action and mind would be comparable...


philiprunningsky
Thu Sep 29, 2005 4:24 pm
#8



k...tested this the other night with a jedi buddy....


My friend drained his action completely ( no food, no buffs...) and we timed it for full regen


No Sap was approx. 36 secs for regen


Sap on....approx 45 secs for regen.



For the math handicapped...9 secs/36 secs is 25% increase in regen time...



Haven't tested mind as that would take a lot longer...figured action and mind would be comparable...






Thanks for that be good if u KD them then

daetalus
Thu Sep 29, 2005 4:29 pm
#9






iakoi wrote:
No offense, but they must have been some terrible BHs or noobs. Sap won't help you much against 1 BH who is well equipped/prepared let alone 2. If they have full buffs and food/spice Sap is only a waste of time unless the fight goes on for a very long time.




Sap is a very usefull tool for fighting those pesky MCM/MBHs that so many seem to have problems with. It also helps when/if they run their action down and you kd them, the lower the action the longer it takes them to KD recover.

Message Edited by daetalus on 09-29-2005 04:29 PM



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RawNemesis
Thu Sep 29, 2005 4:29 pm
#10

Actually...thats how I beat him in a duel once....hes master def, I have a little better saber. He wasn't used to sap, and wasn't paying attention and I got a KD the same time his aura went off and his action was to low to KD recover....bopped him on the head...


And actually...BHs have so many buffs when they come for me now...I doubt they would see the sap on them at all...I know I can never see if my AB landed or not....



Soulcaster
Thu Sep 29, 2005 4:38 pm
#11

/hint maybe u want to make ur health bars bigger....



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RawNemesis
Thu Sep 29, 2005 4:46 pm
#12

Good point....though I have had up to like 3 or 4 past the end of the bar before....so...maybe you're right...never tried to see how far it would go....(I don't get hunted a lot....on my alt all the time)
philiprunningsky
Fri Sep 30, 2005 12:51 am
#13

Bump please someone
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