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Thread: Jedi Population discussion

Areal
Sat Oct 01, 2005 4:57 am
#1




I keep hearing there are soo many new jedi.


ppl say Jedi is soo easy to get now.


Blah Blah Blah


yes there are a lot more jedi now.


my question is, "how many of u made jedi right as u unlocked ur 6th FS tree unlock?"


As far as i know u have to wait the phases out. aka the 6th unlock then old man visit


so i'm thinking the jedi pop would be really close to the same, even if we never had the CU


just wanting to start a friendly FLAME FREE debate

Message Edited by Areal on 10-01-2005 07:04 AM


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Niccolado
Sat Oct 01, 2005 5:03 am
#2


Areal wrote:
I keep hearing there are soo many new jedi.
Jedi is soo easy to get now.
Blah Blah Blah
yes there are a lot more jedi now.
my question is, "how many of u made jedi right as u unlocked ur 6th FS tree unlock?"
As far as i know u have to wait the phases out.
so i'm thinking the jedi pop would be really close to the same, even if we never had the CU
just wanting to start a friendly FLAME FREE debate





As soon you got the XP and the 6 branches complete, you will have to wait 1 day before the old man come and visit you. Thats what happend to me. So I did not have to wait the phase out.

Besides, I see no reason to control the ammount of jedi. But if they nerf our skills they should also equally nerf our negative sides. Like XP loss or BH hunt.

oh, btw. If you want to have a flame free debate, pls dont start with a sentence like "Jedi is soo easy to get now". Because that usually invites to flaming...

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BossEngineer
Sat Oct 01, 2005 5:04 am
#3

Just a comment on having to wait for the phase shift after ur 6th full branch ... I didn't. I had 4 unlocks from the holo grinding, unlocked my two remaining branches, filled 'em up, and went on my merry way. About two hours later I went to MO for some mokk slaughtering when an old guy comes up to me and tells me to go kill some evil cyber-jedi. So I gather the gang, and go spank him for the old man. Btw this was day 4 after the phase shifted.



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Tamori-Tao
Sat Oct 01, 2005 5:07 am
#4

Hes saying that we all had to wait through 6 phases, so even with the quicker grinding in the cu it wouldn't of made a diffirence to how many Jedis there are now (I think lol)



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Areal
Sat Oct 01, 2005 5:08 am
#5

true, i would like to see a new jedi/bh system. the current one causes too much hassle and hatred. As is, i dont see a prob with the xp loss, infact i would like the xp loss in cloning back. the bh term fix helped with the low paddie ganking, and the cloning xp loss was taken out when the cu hit so we could get used to things (i believe). I miss how careful jedi had to be, with showin their glow bats, pvp'in, cloning, all that stuff.




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xakia
Sat Oct 01, 2005 5:08 am
#6

Too many Jedi. 3/4 of my guild is Jedi. I'd rather see a very rare few who are Jedi and capable of taking out 5 players at once then a million Jedi just barely off par with Elite professions.





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Areal
Sat Oct 01, 2005 5:09 am
#7

lol sorry i fixed it




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Areal
Sat Oct 01, 2005 5:11 am
#8

compared to the jedi that have left the game due to the CU, and the amnt of new jedi, do u really think we got that many more?


my opinion is that there may me a higher number of jedi, or not, but now u see paddies out wavin their glow sticks around in theed and stuff. opposed to pre cu when they all were hiding/grinding






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Niccolado
Sat Oct 01, 2005 5:25 am
#9



xakia wrote:
Too many Jedi. 3/4 of my guild is Jedi. I'd rather see a very rare few who are Jedi and capable of taking out 5 players at once then a million Jedi just barely off par with Elite professions.





Sounds nice. Until its you who are not allowed being jedi.

And if you dont want to play jedi at all, im sure you can safely say what you are saying. But my limiting it that much to a select few, is also not good! more difficult to obtain. Ok. But there should be a limit of the griefing. Hassle and problems you should have because of this!

I would rather have a whole server of people who plays what they want AND have fun, then limiting it to a select few.

On FarStar, we had such a few select jedi. And they exploited their positions. Exploited the situation. And in the end, many of them got ban and reported to a CSR.

I want that everyone who wants to be a jedi, should have the posibility!!! STAR WARS is about Jedi!! If you buy for example many of the PnP RPG books for d20 SW, there are lots of books and informations about jedi. Many of the fiction books in SW universe is about force and jedi (i know, about BHs too). Star Wars, if not completely set for Force, jedi and Sith, is heavily leaning in that direction! So, its no suprise that is what people want to play!

I joined SWG in July 2004, for two specific reasons: HAVE FUN! and to Become JEDI!!!!!!!

I am having fun, and I got jedi. However, but what is ruining my day is people who complainging about people who wants to play jedi!! Star Wars is Jedi! For the average mass of people out there! SW is JEDI!! It is so for me! I like the other things in the SW universe too, but if there had not been jedi in this game, I would never have joined!!

So on one side we have the players complaining about too many jedi. about jedi getting to much nerf. about jedi too hard. about jedi too easy. then we have the forced PvP. Then we have the situation where people exploited being jedi in the old FRS. Then we have all the complains about everything regarding BHs. And its not just after the CU!!! Its before the CU too!!! But less jedi mean less complains, but they where still there! I think the only right thing to do is to end forced PvP. And Let they who want to do PvP, choose the moment themselves!!!




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Areal
Sat Oct 01, 2005 5:28 am
#10

ok servers back up, off to log




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Tamori-Tao
Sat Oct 01, 2005 5:31 am
#11



Areal wrote:

compared to the jedi that have left the game due to the CU, and the amnt of new jedi, do u really think we got that many more?

my opinion is that there may me a higher number of jedi, or not, but now u see paddies out wavin their glow sticks around in theed and stuff. opposed to pre cu when they all were hiding/grinding






True but I'm sure alot of Jedi will reactivate when the frs comes back.



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MikeHeXt
Sat Oct 01, 2005 5:32 am
#12

I took my time @ unlocking. I had 2 free branches and it still took me like 8 cycles to finish because I was damn lazy.



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Nezodon
Sat Oct 01, 2005 6:00 am
#13

The problem in the jedi population comes from the fact no other profession has any form of progression except for jedi in all honesty.


The jedi to be runs the missions from the village because it is quite nice content and unlocks the trees to grind up, then jedi have to do the exit mission which is cool, followed by the padawan trials which may be quite boring but its more than most professions have, and eventually you will see the return of the FRS which further adds to jedi content.


Dont forget jedi are unique and iconic so alot of newer players will seek this out as if it was a starting profession since they just saw the new film and decided to buy the game as the game was being advertised to be about the clone wars era and featured many jedi.


Other profession dont have this kind of immersion in their profession because jedi are allowed to live their character and progress and see them develop through out the game, this attracts the rp'ers, they are also one of the few professions which are able to get involved in high level solo pve, and they have very good survivalbility in pvp which attracts the pvp'ers.


Their is absolutely no reason to be any of the other professions, Bounty hunters once they hit master they can hunt jedi but they cant develop their character beyond master BH and become infamous at hunting marks be it npc or pc, smugglers have been waiting for smuggling content for over 2 years and has been in-concept now 3 times and i dont believe them any more when they create these in concept idea's, squad leader and commando's should be the most feared professions on the battlefield yet how many do we see out and about fighting the war.


This is a rpg and to be honest i can get a full template in a couple of weeks then their is no direction to take my character appart from become jedi because this professions opens up more possibilities and regardless of how bad it becomes i have an extra character which is something only a jedi gets.


The problem is simple no reason not to be jedi and no reason to stick with any of the other professions, i like being a jedi and i try to rp my jedi but by making it a pvpprofession you attract the powergamers who have no concept of rp and immersion for other players and this destroys the feel of the universe since the jedi which are most visable arnt the ones many fans want to see from the movies because they dont act like jedi.


I quite like the idea behind the new CH profession of learning skills from the pets and then training the pets up and teaching them the skills youve learnt that seems to add to the professions lifespan.


But at the moment if i wanted to be jedi or not i would still go for jedi because i get an extra character on the same server, so no reason not to do it really, its better than buying another account.





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