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Thread: Most Unique Jedi Temp ever
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tHeRaBiDmOnKeY
Mon Oct 17, 2005 1:06 pm
#1
Soulcaster wrote:
So my friend, TacWraith on here, is ALL ABOUT his new Jedi temp. Its a hybrid.
Let me know what you guys think about this one.
Combat Medic 0400 (for Fire Dot)
DEF 0004 (for Valor)
LS 0004 (for saber block)
MPowers (he mainly uses his Choke as a double dot with fire)
He says he uses this primarily as an Anti-BH template. But I really dont think he is gunna lst very long
interesting. Healing would be up to bar with 4//x/x/x healer, and you get two you can alternate. Not bad, low force is one of the drawbacks with this.
Lumby_man
Mon Oct 17, 2005 1:10 pm
#2
you want a strange template? Take McM 0040 defender 0400 enhancer 0404 or 4400 LS, Now THAT is a cool template!
omismiha
Mon Oct 17, 2005 1:12 pm
#3
until they patch it out, where you cant use normal skills with jedi skills
eternalfool
Mon Oct 17, 2005 1:31 pm
#5
Soulcaster wrote:
So my friend, TacWraith on here, is ALL ABOUT his new Jedi temp. Its a hybrid.
Let me know what you guys think about this one.
Combat Medic 0400 (for Fire Dot)
DEF 0004 (for Valor)
LS 0004 (for saber block)
MPowers (he mainly uses his Choke as a double dot with fire)
He says he uses this primarily as an Anti-BH template. But I really dont think he is gunna lst very long
Not to my taste.. Im not too keen on hybrids in principle and well.. this seems poor even for a hybrid
TonieStark
Mon Oct 17, 2005 2:56 pm
#7
He will eventually have to drop CM.
Master Powers in general works very well againt BH. I know they are the most feared templateto go up against. Force Choke is hard ot overcome and really gets past all your fancy armor.
Soulcaster
Mon Oct 17, 2005 4:35 pm
#9
Yeah his CM skill is SUCKING up so many skill points. If anything, he is better off going DOC 4000 and saving like 20 extra skill points for more jedi skills.
CM require MEDIC & MARKSMAN. Thats like what? 18 SPs PER Novice skill? Thats like 36 SPs right there!!
tacwraith
Mon Oct 17, 2005 6:14 pm
#10
Well guess i have to come here and defend my templates. 
First off: This Jedi/CM template works. Im not planning on being the uber killer of all. I know very well my template weaknesses and my strengths.
The good:
Excellent damage. I bypass anyone's armor. With enchancers my fire dot (cm) can tick for 300'ish, poison for 300'ish, disease will slowly tick out 200 life (though for all useful purposes only 50 to 100 will really apply to target by the time the fight is over) and choke does 500 on first tick and 400 on every other tick. Lightning does anaverage of 700 damage in pvp and improved saber throw can do 500 damage (once i get good crystals/pearls). Force hit/Mind Blast/Force Throw each does around 200 damage. I can KD from melee range (saber kd) or from 35m range (force powers kd).
Add it all up.
DOTS: 300+300+400 = 1100 damage on first tick alone. Time elapsed= about 8 seconds.
KD the BH and lighting does 800 damage.
BH now has 1900 less life.
DOTS tick again . 1100 life down (about a second or two after the lighting hit)
If BH is too shocked by this and didnt heal he is either incapped or if he has +health items or foods is barely 200 life from death. I use forcehit/mindblast/force throw (any of em) which have no timers and thats the end of the BH.
Total time to incap BH-about 22 seconds.
If the BH heals up then he's in for a fight against my dots and lightning for which all I need is to land a KD on him when he is below half life (which is most of the time) and zap him.
My healing ability with this template is good. I can heal 900 damage with bacta shot. I have healing BE clothes and healing eff CA's on my gear.
My defense is 100% saber block. Force Valor= 25% block saber tech tree = 20% block block food=25% block. Add em up and its 75% block rate. Thats pre-cu block for you.
Add pikata pie... that little 15% block rate im missing is made up for it this way.
If target is kiting me and tried to go outside my dot/powers range then I have the option of either waiting him out or fleeing... or simply CLOAKING and getting the F out of there or counterstriking at will.
My biggest weakness is that im vulnerable to the alpha strike of the BH. If my foods/aura is not up im simply DEAD in 5 seconds.
My force bar is 4250. Since im using little to no force (powers is very force effective at master) and my template does not force me to constantly dish out damage (just wait for dots to lower then hit with force powers at the right time) im extremely force efficient.
I tested myself against 2 friendly BH's, both bloody damn good and with adk'd full gear and stuff and i was able to take them both down in less than 5 mins. Further duels had them taking me down after a good while 'cause they learned to work around my template and adapt...a luxury that I plan on giving no BH's in the near future.
Soulcaster here and I dueled just for the heck of it on rori after a grind. I was at 50% force from choking/zapping/intimidating lairs for group.
For the first 15 minutes of several mini-duels (he lost all of them and some were interrupted by aggro and him not having his toolbar 'ready')in which Iused NO buffs. No block food no pikkata.. no spiced tea. only valor and my dots/powers.
While he was nowhere close to a finished template he did have cm healing/dots/jedi healing and nice defenses as well as a trando rifle. In all duels he kept changing strategy..from debuffing the smuck out of me (didnt affect me at all) to kiting me (didnt affect me at all..blockmonkey!) to dotting me back and trying to stay out of range from me (worked best vs me but still my healing more than outpaced his dots and he had to return to range to dot me again at which time i incapped him with powers)... all in all he did fight good and tried lots of things but to no avail.
Regardless of templates or our respective CL's I know for a fact that if he had come against me as a full mbh/mcm i wouldve still sent him to the cloner rather quickly.
This is my for fun anti-bh template. I love it to death.Its hisopinion that i take up doc...for what?to heal myself for a few hundred or 200 pnts better and get bacta infuse?id be an idiot to sacrifice 1100 damageper tick unresistable by armor to heal myself when I already am efficient atmyown healing.
If soe puts the added action costs to healing it still does not affect me. I can use action buff food just like a BH can. But unlike a BH i do not spend action attacking or defending. If SOE nerfs hybrids sothat they can only use powers when wielding a saber...well... DUH im using a saber (block remember?), I dont need aweapon tothrow cm dots or heal myself with medic.
im 800k to getting my last saber tech tree box4 to get that last 5% block and improved saber throw..after that, BH'S WELCOME! 
Message Edited by tacwraith on 10-17-2005 09:16 PM
Mythrindir
Mon Oct 17, 2005 6:45 pm
#11
Soulcaster wrote:
Yeah his CM skill is SUCKING up so many skill points. If anything, he is better off going DOC 4000 and saving like 20 extra skill points for more jedi skills.
CM require MEDIC & MARKSMAN. Thats like what? 18 SPs PER Novice skill? Thats like 36 SPs right there!!
15 for novice and then 14 for each line...so 29 wasted from marks
Soulcaster
Tue Oct 18, 2005 12:50 am
#13
So my friend, TacWraith on here, is ALL ABOUT his new Jedi temp. Its a hybrid.
Let me know what you guys think about this one.
Let me know what you guys think about this one.
Combat Medic 0400 (for Fire Dot)
DEF 0004 (for Valor)
DEF 0004 (for Valor)
LS 0004 (for saber block)
MPowers (he mainly uses his Choke as a double dot with fire)
He says he uses this primarily as an Anti-BH template. But I really dont think he is gunna lst very long 
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