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Thread: What can a BH do to ya that Jedi specials and Foods/drinks/spice cannot counter?
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EctarStarwind
Mon Oct 24, 2005 6:52 pm
#2
i think the idea is that you allways have a counter so people cant moan that bh is overpowered you need racor aid to stop the snare but if you drink it you lose room for ruby spiced tea ect so its a matter of thinking carefully about what you eat and drink
Grienthumb
Mon Oct 24, 2005 6:54 pm
#3
Depends on the temp. Some temps do well pvp and some are very weak............ This is alot of the reason we hear some jedi more upset about bh than others. This is a design issue really and I think itiscovered so no worries, for the long term anyway.
An easy example is a jedi with little or no healing. Thats a dead jedi. This is a extreme example but this runs through out the proffession. A jedi with no channel is also in a delayed dead state to 
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Message Edited by Grienthumb on 10-24-2005 06:56 PM
Darkvenegence
Mon Oct 24, 2005 6:58 pm
#4
stopping shot,and crippling shot for starters,also food,drinks,spices cant counter them grouping with a SL and one shotting you 
TraceAntilles
Mon Oct 24, 2005 7:00 pm
#5
There is a great food combo that allows for everything you need in a fight. I won't post it here, but rancor aid is easily fitted into this.
Ok but Force Valor and LS tech 4 do block most shots, especially the higher ended shots. I never have a problem with one shotting.
Message Edited by TraceAntilles on 10-24-2005 07:01 PM
shadowhound
Mon Oct 24, 2005 7:01 pm
#6
1.wear armor better than what a master def can get,
2.get the first hit in a jedi vs bh hunt. (so they get to pick the time the place and also tank us 1vs 1).
3.heals are not limited to force so they can heal forever almost. by managing stims and mind
(jedi are still limited by force so we can notheal as long)
4.use bomb droids.
5.use high dmg rifles and weapons and still be able to heal or use there
def buffs, like duel stance.
6. take jedi missons or npc missons for loot
7. have further range and can kite like no other using range
8. kill a full temp faster than a full temp can kill his own.
9 and last but not least a bh can quit the fight at anytime by dropping the bh misson and get out of being deathblowed. a jedi can not without cloaking and running
now i can say more about mbh/cm but u only said mbh.
ooh ya one hit incap with sl in tow without the jedi knowing. (thanks to alpha strike)
TraceAntilles
Mon Oct 24, 2005 7:04 pm
#7
I realize SOE screwed the pooch with jedi big time, but I like to play my character and while we still can agree Jedi is difficult to play, I am one that still wants to find ways to overcome for the time being without the ever popular /cancel command.
Tlk
Mon Oct 24, 2005 7:48 pm
#8
Like another said, only thing you really can do is plan your food carefully, pick a good template (including healing and force management), and learning all the limitations of your profession. But be prepared to lose, no single jedi template, clothing, food/drink/spice combo can prepare you for all the possible BH templates coming after you.
Biggest issue in my opinion is the root and imbalance in healing. Sure some jedi could root as well, but what is the point if they are ranged?
DexbaccatheWookie
Mon Oct 24, 2005 7:53 pm
#9
Well, ranged arms and rifles. Nothing like being shot from 80m away. Whats the counter for that?
Message Edited by DexbaccatheWookie on 10-24-2005 10:53 PM
Grunzer
Mon Oct 24, 2005 7:54 pm
#10
Kill you, and cause XP loss. Those can't be countered. Life and XP can be regained, but it can't be countered.
TraceAntilles
Mon Oct 24, 2005 7:57 pm
#11
Block does counter last time I used it. I dont get one shotted.
EctarStarwind
Mon Oct 24, 2005 8:00 pm
#12
shadowhound wrote
1.wear armor better than what a master def can get,
Armour has to be paid for and decays jedi dont have to buy armour
2.get the first hit in a jedi vs bh hunt. (so they get to pick the time the place and also tank us 1vs 1).
true they get the first hit but thats only a slight advantage and most jedi are aware when a blue dot comes towards them
3.heals are not limited to force so they can heal forever almost. by managing stims and mind
(jedi are still limited by force so we can notheal as long)
heals still use mind and they cannot heal while KD while jedi can
4.use bomb droids.
when do you ever see a BH using a bomb droid they hit for like 20 points now or something
5.use high dmg rifles and weapons and still be able to heal or use there
def buffs, like duel stance.
rifles have hindrance that slow the bh down sabres do not and sabres have a ranged attack as well
6. take jedi missons or npc missons for loot
they are BH its there job thats like saying doctors can rez people
7. have further range and can kite like no other using range
fair enough but the weapons usually have a high action cost even with pups they cant continue shooting non stop just heal and defend till they are knackered then kd and kite them
8. kill a full temp faster than a full temp can kill his own.
depends on the skill of the player
9 and last but not least a bh can quit the fight at anytime by dropping the bh misson and get out of being deathblowed. a jedi can not without cloaking andrunning
yeah that can drop the mission but thats the same as saying they lost so what the deal
Message Edited by EctarStarwind on 10-24-2005 08:02 PM
Message Edited by EctarStarwind on 10-24-2005 08:02 PM
freak88
Mon Oct 24, 2005 8:11 pm
#13
kind of hard to counter a 1st shot, 1 shot incap , of 4-7k damage, and up, when you were 1 shot incapped. how do you counter that? i was goofing with a friend to see how hard he could hit me in my private gh. what a dev fart that was.
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