Jedi Archive

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EctarStarwind wrote:

Ok so all i have heard for the last few months is oh MBH MCM is so overpowered boo hoo guys if you had fought a MBH MCM pre CU you would stop playing the game jedi have it easy now and have no purpose other than grind and pvp there are no prem crystals anymore no FRS no sabre tef no nothing

and now the devs have managed to improve a pritty dead prof called squad leader and now the posts are

OH MY MBH MSL IS SO OVERPOWED

the chances of your mission being pulled is remote

I get hunted at least once every 3-4 days - ive seen others get it more frequently - you're wrong

bh cant purposely gank you

Yes, they can - with ID droids and a 3 day mission window - all it takes is droids , planning and patience.

the exp loss is minimal

Its 300k - for a jedi - NOT minimal

earning exp is easy i gain 400k in just under 30 mins

Jedi earn xp slower than most profs - a CL 80 kill for non jedi earns more than it does for jedi. Even if this is no longer true - im sure you cant SOLO 400k in 30 min - all while avoiding other players, NPC's etc

you can have a squadleader with you to assist you as well im told

Whether SL helps the BH , a jedi , or anyone else - the new abilities are WAY overpowered.

please stop crying just cos a few profs got an upgrade this is not just a game for jedi you know other characters need to be able to kill stuff too ya know

No one is "crying" - when theres a new patch people are asked by the DEVs to provide feedback - (whether they listen or not is another matter) without that feedback the DEVs wouldnt know how the community feels. And a significant portion of the community is upset with publish 24 in general not just the overpowering of SL

Either you are just a troll - or you are grossly misinformed here.

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Message Edited by Tiberius- on 10-24-2005 10:46 PM

Message Edited by EctarStarwind on 10-24-2005 07:49 PM

Ectar are you posting for a particular reason or just to argue?

Granted BH ganking a jedi is much more difficult than before, I thin we can all reasonably agree with that. But jedi can not make 400k experience in 30 minutes (I am not sure anyone could that would be 2 kills at 6000 exp per minute, which if it were the case, people would master there professions in mere hours which isn't happening, could be mistaken of course).

300k exp loss to a jedi takes 300 kills (for a completely tempalte jedi) to recoupe from, not such an easy feat.

Did SL need a boost? Yes they did, a big one,bu that does not mean that the boost they did get is perfectly balanced with the other professions in the game.

CURB was suppose to balance all combat. And week after week, there are still overpowering templates that directly contradict the whole point of the CURB. I am surprised after all this time the community (SWG in general) still bickers over these petty little things. Don't want to read varied opinions about the changes don't visit the forums. Want to offer counter points as to why you feel SL is not overpowered? Then please do so, I would be very interested in reading what you have to offer.

My feeling is that the SL changes are unbalanced when it comes to PvP, now not only is healing required but SL are required on both sides. Definately makes an interesting interaction when two SL supported groups meet, but leaves little in terms of dynamically developing groups and using real tactics in the game that we were suppose to be looking forward to with the CURB.

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EctarStarwind wrote:

Ok so all i have heard for the last few months is oh MBH MCM is so overpowered boo hoo guys if you had fought a MBH MCM pre CU you would stop playing the game jedi have it easy now and have no purpose other than grind and pvp there are no prem crystals anymore no FRS no sabre tef no nothing

MCM was the biggest FotM pre-cu and now since the only PVP is Jedi vs BH it is again the biggest FotM. When you run out of content, you PVP, and when you PVP, you need MCM.Pre-CU a CM could incap a group in a few seconds, Post-CU a SL can incap a single person in 1 hit. Since PVP is now largely Jedivs BH, andlarge battles are very uncommon, the SL now has a huge advantage. Jedi cannot have any sort of SL buffs in their templates, whereas we COULD have healing and SOME debuffs that CM has.

bh cant purposely gank you

Yes they can, your mission description and price is the same.

the exp loss is minimal

If I lose exp right now I lose 450K

earning exp is easy i gain 400k in just under 30 mins

In aseries of goodspin groups, with entertainer buffs, I made about 3 mil, and that was playing for 14 hours straight.

you can have a squadleader with you to assist you as well im told

Squad Leader buffs do not apply through the BH TEF

please stop crying just cos a few profs got an upgrade this is not just a game for jedi you know other characters need to be able to kill stuff too ya know

When these profs are upgraded and made better than an alpha class, or contribute to a template better than an alpha class template, we have the right to complain.

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another post cu jedi nooblet running his mouth. no clue astto what jedi was like pre cu /im sorry for you.

as for mbh/mcm this combo was not possible until the devs went way overboard, dropping mastermarksman as a pre req for bh, and dropping master medic as a pre req for medic. and then going way overboard AGAIN to make it happen, with only req cm to have 1 line of medic, while doc needs 2??????

talk about freeing up 2 master professions to just make what you want??? and now again with the mbh/msl cm4000.

this would be like me being a msaber mdef menh heal4000. amounts to the samething.

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Tapa wrote:

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EctarStarwind wrote:

Ok so all i have heard for the last few months is oh MBH MCM is so overpowered boo hoo guys if you had fought a MBH MCM pre CU you would stop playing the game jedi have it easy now and have no purpose other than grind and pvp there are no prem crystals anymore no FRS no sabre tef no nothing

MCM was the biggest FotM pre-cu and now since the only PVP is Jedi vs BH it is again the biggest FotM. When you run out of content, you PVP, and when you PVP, you need MCM.Pre-CU a CM could incap a group in a few seconds, Post-CU a SL can incap a single person in 1 hit. Since PVP is now largely Jedivs BH, andlarge battles are very uncommon, the SL now has a huge advantage. Jedi cannot have any sort of SL buffs in their templates, whereas we COULD have healing and SOME debuffs that CM has.

bh cant purposely gank you

Yes they can, your mission description and price is the same.

the exp loss is minimal

If I lose exp right now I lose 450K

earning exp is easy i gain 400k in just under 30 mins

In aseries of goodspin groups, with entertainer buffs, I made about 3 mil, and that was playing for 14 hours straight.

you can have a squadleader with you to assist you as well im told

Squad Leader buffs do not apply through the BH TEF

please stop crying just cos a few profs got an upgrade this is not just a game for jedi you know other characters need to be able to kill stuff too ya know

When these profs are upgraded and made better than an alpha class, or contribute to a template better than an alpha class template, we have the right to complain.

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A) if you think 450k is a lot, try 5,6,700k+ I was loosing pre-cu if a bh db'd me

B) If you are only getting 3 mil xp in 14 hours of grinding you need to find a better group...500k in a half hour is cake now

C) Right now we arent all that alpha...We are padawans we arent knights, sentinals, guardians, or masters. You won't see Jedi owning anyone until the FRS comes back. Pre-cu non knight full template was about as powerful as it is now comparatively. There were quite a few professions that could give a non knight full template a very hard time and even kill regularly.

Conclusion: You have it easier than you know. You can always tell old jedi from Village people or post CU jedi. They have no idea how easy it is to grind and progress through this profession than it used to be. Believe it or not, you should be thanking devs that they have reduced the difficulty to where it is instead of ridiculing them every time you get on the forums.

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ChefRubio wrote:

A) if you think 450k is a lot, try 5,6,700k+ I was loosing pre-cu if a bh db'd me

B) If you are only getting 3 mil xp in 14 hours of grinding you need to find a better group...500k in a half hour is cake now

C) Right now we arent all that alpha...We are padawans we arent knights, sentinals, guardians, or masters. You won't see Jedi owning anyone until the FRS comes back. Pre-cu non knight full template was about as powerful as it is now comparatively. There were quite a few professions that could give a non knight full template a very hard time and even kill regularly.

Conclusion: You have it easier than you know. You can always tell old jedi from Village people or post CU jedi. They have no idea how easy it is to grind and progress through this profession than it used to be. Believe it or not, you should be thanking devs that they have reduced the difficulty to where it is instead of ridiculing them every time you get on the forums.

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thanks in advance!

8 grinding jedi guildies

missions from a terminal, all in same direction, all within 1k

Inspiration buffs then have at it.

I only did it to help other jedi, I've been full template since pre-cu.

I average about 5-750k in 1/2 hour -45min

Nothing really too difficult to figure out