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All this talk of what Elder Jedi get to separate them from the rest

.............there are no classes better now, everyones the same

People talking of crafting sabers now before NGE goes live

.............everyone will end up with the same sabers anyway, with the same templates, the same number of exp points

Asking for XP to be transferred or to be set at CL90 rather than 80

.............it doesn't matter, were all in the same boat, the same position. After the respecs are done we'd have to delete our characters and start again when the time comes that we want to change anyway.

Dont you all see? The game is being dumbed down

But not be a little, by a lot, they are stepping down, no more large patches (what is there left to patch?) no more diversity or challenge no more anything........

Its over, were finished. The game is going to effectively end for us........if you dont see now you will 2 months down the line.......Its so sad

Message Edited by Sephiroth686 on 11-07-2005 10:02 PM

I agree with the OP. This is a brand new game for the PlayStation market. It's not a MMORPG anymore, just a MMOG. No more templates, everyone willbe alike.

I think it was Pete Seager who said(sang) it the best: "We're all made out of ticky-tocky and we all look just the same."

IMO the CU went so bad, heads rolled. After all, VP's were being called at home by irate customers. When that starts happening, people lose their jobs. This CU resulted in LA taking control and turning it into a video game.

Personally, I plan to play CIV IV until Star Trek Online comes out.

Message Edited by jcesare on 11-07-2005 04:03 PM

guys i can completly understand what and how u feel... I beta tested also (not a big deal) and been around for awhile. I took my sweet time getting jedi tho, and well im not full temp just yet but would have been either a little before or after the NGE comes.

But I will say, I got a chance to play the NGE. Dont know how many of u have, but here is what I see so far. The game is almost same (minus the fact each character with same prof will be practically the same..yet different due to weapons and armor). The new loot is kinda neat. Looted some items from different creatures that adds to precision and even to Luck (5 min buff). The interface has changed, and the combat is faster. I dont know if u have ever played Diablo or diablo 2. But thats kinda what the combat seems like. Your curser must stay on target in order to hit the target. (feel sorry for those on Dial-up). But the over all game play is fast, fun loot, and the quests are alot better, and you can even finish quests from TOW. (thats what my fears were.) If you open your Character screen, you will see things from Charisma to Luck. I hate grinding but its fun when u have a great group. To see what will happen when we face Krayts or players will be neat, and hopefully fun. Most jedi will appreciate this, while fighting a lot of mobs, you dont have to worry about a BH hitting u when you have low health. The game seems like its going in the direction of actual playing and enjoyment. Worse thing is, your a jedi playing in a good group and boom you get hit from a bh and lose all the xp you just gained. (not complaining here just stating what happens).

I created a Jedi toon out of fear, b/c i wanted to see how we were being changed. I dont know how our stuff will transfer over, but I can see that our new stuff will add interesting details later and the game feels like it can be upgraded so much better and easily. I must say that I feared the worst from SOE, but give it a chance before you quit.

I respect everyones oppinions so I wouldnt call anyone for liking the NGE, just that I can't help but feel their oppinions will change after a month max.

Look at the combat videos, look at the skilltrees....

Taken from MsNil's Sticky

Student (Level 1-15)
Fundamentals 1: Focused Strike (Attack)
Fundamentals 2: Ataru Focus (Bonus damage buff)
Fundamentals 3: Center of Being (Bonus defense buff)
Fundamentals 4: Centered Strike (Stronger attack)
Fundamentals 5: Makashi Focus (Bonus damage buff)
Fundamentals 6: Shii-Cho Strike (Stronger attack) / Force Run

Initiate (Level 16-40)
Essentials 1: Force Hardening (bonus defense buff)
Essentials 2: Force Aura (bonus defense buff)
Essentials 3: Vaapad Focus (bonus damage buff), 1st Generation Lightsaber, +10 Lightsaber Assembly/Focus
Essentials 4: Meditate (Recharge Health)/Saber Block (Ranged attack invulnerability for short time), +5 LS A/F
Essentials 5: Grapple (Damage/Snare), +5 LS A/F
Essentials 6: Niman Strike (Stronger Attack), +5 LS A/F

Adept (Level 41-65)
Expertise 1: Shii-Cho Stance (Defense Stance that increases block/dodge), Saber Throw, 2nd Generation Lightsaber, +5 LS A/F
Expertise 2: Force Shock (Damage/Snare), +5 LS A/F
Expertise 3: Ataru Strike (Stronger attack), +5 LS A/F
Expertise 4: Focus of Life (Self Heal), +5 LS A/F
Expertise 5: Force Grapple (Damage/Snare), 3rd Generation Lightsaber, +5 LS A/F
Expertise 6: Makashi Strike (Stronger Attack), +10 LS A/F

Sword Master (Level 66-90)
Mastery 1: Niman Stance (Defense stance that increases block/dodge), +5 LS A/F
Mastery 2: Force Choke (Damage/Snare), +5 LS A/F
Mastery 3: Djem So Strike (Stronger Attack), 4th Generation Lightsaber, +5 LS A/F
Mastery 4: Force Regenation (Self Heal), +5 LS A/F
(Level 80 about here)
Mastery 5: Soresu Stance (Defense stance that increases block/dodge), +5 LS A/F
Mastery 6: Vaapad Strike (Stronger Attack), +10 LS A/F

Are you seeing yet? its a kids game. Were going to be adults playing a childrens game, the wool might be over some peoples eyes right now, but it wont last long.

Message Edited by Sephiroth686 on 11-08-2005 06:03 PM