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Thread: I'd like to say something to the Jedi Elders...

Temokett
Sun Nov 06, 2005 8:28 pm
#1


Firstly I would like to introduce myself. My name is Kate, and I play a character named Te'Mo Ama on the Kettemoor server. I orginally played SWG when it launched, but that lasted only for a month on my old roomates account. So I consider my actual start date from when I created Te'Mo on my own account in August of 2004. So my account is only 15 months old, which consequently subjects me to potentially not being heard by those who feel that I am a newbie. But I still felt the need to say something. And as my first post on the forums, I wanted it to be directed to those who I feel may be able to take something from it. Or perhaps not..

This is more just a story of my time in SWG, it is not a story a lot of people probably want to read, but it is honest, and it is how I feel about things past, present, and future.


From the time I began playing SWG, I knew that without a doubt I would become Jedi. I didn't know anything about how you became Jedi at that time, nor did I know the road that lay in front of me. If I had known before hand, I may not have ever left the scout profession(which was my first mastered prof ).

But I played as any normal person would. I started out alone in the galaxy, and eventually met a group of friends who guided me down the path to not only being a good player, but a great person. It was through their example I adapted to the Kettemoor Galaxy. As I continued to play, I became more adapted to the professions I chose to learn, and the mechanics of the game, and before long, I was the one leading by example to many. Life is a cycle... whether it be cyber or tangible and real.

I eventually became force sensitive by accident. I travelled to the village during it's first phase after its introduction to the game, and through Teras Kasi and Pikeman I grinded the entirety of my force sensitive experience. By the first repeat of the first village phase (the 5th phase change after they were introduced). I had my experience banked and waited for the last. When it came I could hardly believe it. My roomates stood in awe as they watched me defeat Melli with the help of two "mystical" Jedi far superior to me, and a few other friends. I don't think they could understand how the countless hours I pumped into this had finally paid off and I was now becoming a Jedi. This was in December 2004, 4 months after I began my life in Kettemoor, and 11 months ago from today. I was the first person from my original guild(the group of people i referred to earlier) to become Jedi, and also the only. They have all long since left the game.

I won't elaborate more on the actual Jedi grind, because if you are a finished template Jedi, then you don't need anyone to remind you. However, I completed my Jedi template a few weeks before the original Combat Upgrade. I was Master Lightsaber, Master Healer, and 4004 Enhancer.

I don't think I could have ever done anything I have done in this game without the help of others. I have been surprised at how so many people can come together ingame for a common goal. Despite battles we might face, or players we might call our enemies, or friends we lose... There is always someone there to look out for you, and always someone to look out for.

I remember seeing my first Jedi, and thinking "Oh my god, look at that Jedi!"... I remember getting so excited to have a lone Jedi helping raid an opposing faction base.. I remember being amazed by a single Jedi taking out a dozen players. I remember fondly watching 2 jedi battle in the Theed starport, and then hop out the hangar opening and continue fighting off into the distant hills.

My road to force sensitive, to jedi initiate, and to full fledged end-template Jedi have seemed like an eternity filled with many friends, many experiences, battles, and many lessons learned. I was taught by some of the Elder Jedi of that time, and I went on to inspire and assist Jedi lower than myself. I unfortunetly never got to join the FRS. I will forever remain a Jedi Padawan by title. But the Jedi who inspired and taught me the most(a jedi master if any have ever been, who took me as a padawan) recently surfaced back ingame and he said something to me that I hold closely.

He said "Te'Mo, I am incredibly proud of you. You are not just a great Jedi, you are a great person. You are no longer my student, for there is nothing more I can teach you. It is you who is Master Jedi."


So basically things our going to change for us. A lot of things that we won't quite be happy with, and probably some things that we will like. We see a great number of people join us in the Force. And I will be there to help whomever asks, because that is who I am. I am not striving to stand out, I am not striving to be the best, I have been part of the greatest era our galaxies will see. And we always remember who we are, and we will always know who we are, and those who know us will always know who we are. We can only hope to provide a great example to those new to the Force. They will be our allies and also our enemies in the battles to come. I suggest we think of all they have to offer towards us, and similiarly what we can offer them.


So I say to you now as my master said it to me.....

They can take the Jedi out of Master... But they cant take the Master out of the Jedi.


Fondly,

Te'Mo Ama - Jedi Elder- Kettemoor Galaxy





Te'Mo Ama
ORDER

(g\\\\[w]gg{gggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg)

Dark Jedi Elder
Kettemoor

DarFour
Sun Nov 06, 2005 8:42 pm
#2

Good stuff, but the haters have the numbers...



--DarFour--




Temokett
Sun Nov 06, 2005 8:51 pm
#3






DarFour wrote:

Good stuff, but the haters have the numbers...






You're totally right...


Just trying to change the mood a bit.





Te'Mo Ama
ORDER

(g\\\\[w]gg{gggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg)

Dark Jedi Elder
Kettemoor

PuntaSur
Sun Nov 06, 2005 9:01 pm
#4



Nice story, and well written, and from the heart. I'm glad you are keeping a positive attitude.


/bow


From someone who was one of the first ever to be a "perma-death" era Jedi on Wanderhome, I guess my issue is this:


We were held at arms length from ever reaching the Jedi Master title due to some "bug" they refused to fix, so we ran around as 4444 Guardians looking more like Power Rangers wearing full composite, swinging powerful kinetic damage sabers against the whirlwind of melee stacked BHs and their melee stacked FOTM friends wearing 90% kinetic. We risked NOTHING back then due to the 3 deaths and you re-roll rule. We hid well, we role played well, we fought well, and yet we were far from Jedi as we know them in the films, books and other games.


Then came patchnerf 9 (a revamp that none of us asked for, yet we suffered under immense hate for receiving one)where we were issued garbage robes without the innate armor they promised us, and lost 50% of our skill trees as they spread them across 5 insane templates to thin us down in power and the "complete" jedi feel. They actually TOOK something we had earned in a very challenging path, and reduced our strength and abilities. It was great to lose the composite armor, and get a damage type that was not resisted (for a while), but the loss of what we had before was enough to make us sick. New Jedi in this post pub-9 era will never know how amazing the old system was in spite of it's few flaws and permadeath risks. Now we were farther from Jedi as we know them in the films, books and other games.


Publish 10 came and it was a better mouse trap than the profession grind, but it was still a massive grind for those who had to face it to catch up to us already unlocked in the past. The village quests were good, and the social aspects of the game started to recover, but the Pub 9 change was never really necessary. This Pub 10 is all they really needed to do in my opinion.


Then came the CU, where we were further reduced in comparative power, and all pre-requisite skills are summarily replaced by the more advanced one. This seriously limits the "control" ability in combat to use target specific skills, vs AoE ones. The icons were replaced with terrible cartoonish art, and the FRS is long gone. Now that FRS was a mess, and we needed something better (Master/Apprentice relationships, content, quests, etc), but the idea of a ranking system was zapped and again we found ourselves even farther from Jedi as we know them in the films, books and other games.


Now the NGE is just days away. No longer will there even be Jedi in SWG. This CL90 change should be a nice "addition" to the game, but instead they are (yet again) taking something we have today and making people work to get it back (ie: 4th gen LS). They have further reduced the profession to Force Sensitive. This is absurd! People who were 4444 Guardians in the original system (just moments from being Jedi Master), and some folks who figured out how to level in the FRS (I wasn't one who cared for that design) and earned other Jedi titles, will all now be happy little Force Sensitives. How embarrassing, and how demoralizing. They have equalized the Jedi ability to other combatants (from a MMOG perspective this is probably good), but for certain, we find ourselves the furthest from Jedi as we know them in the films, books and other games.


It just breaks my heart to see a game get watered down from launch to now. Every time they touch this product they reduce the investment most players have made. This is true for crafters, for Jedi, for collectors of items, etc. They finally got marginally better at content additions (for a license fee each time I might add), but they never have had a clue how to balance professions, or to reward people for the effort they have made. It's just a constant dilution of time and investment until the player base just smashes their fist down on the cancel button, and SOE has to shut down servers (like the failed Japan market). Now they are obviously preparing for a console launch to suck the last bit of coin they can from license revenue in a churn and burn venue that consoles typically are. Meanwhile, the long committed base of veterans watch the gamewe waited years to get launched, enjoyed for maybe the first year before nerfs and bugs were tossed at us, and suffered through endless lies and excuses, can just watch it circle the drain as the producers keep changing the color of the water in the toilet instead of actually getting it back on track.

What blows my mind is how they repeatedly develop this product in a vacuum without the active interaction with a devoted player base who best knows what they really want in a game. They conduct some type of random summary samples and then go code in private. They blew most of us off who were part of the CU Sandbox, and the correspondent system has been nothing short of a "heat shield" where our own representative players take the abuse from unhappy folks who are stiff armed and misinformed routinely. It's just amazing...

Message Edited by PuntaSur on 11-06-2005 10:20 PM



PuntaSur - MBH/Ranger and Jedi of 2003
EMC2

Temokett
Sun Nov 06, 2005 9:17 pm
#5






PuntaSur wrote:






I am incredibly empathetic to your era of Jedi. I can not fully understand all of the changes that you have had to face, I myself having been through only some of what you faced. It is incredibly difficult to adapt to new systems when you are so familiar with others, and it only becomes more painstaking as changes increasingly happen. The case of majormechanics alterations on a launched and "finished" product is always a tough one. Especially when we all pay for this service. However it is a service that is subject to change at any time(as we all know and see) and unfortunetly this is also a business.


It boils down to marketing and sales, and sales will boost from this move. I find it very unfortunate, personally, that it is like that however. In an ideal world a game development team would have more integrity for the experience they create and the players who remain loyal rather than, as you put it well, dilute the game for bigger profits. However this is not an ideal pair of companies, they are huge corporations, and while they take the players into some consideration, there are just times when, instead of taking more time in developing thorough content into the existing system and enhancingthe compeling and diverseworld, it is far easier to candy coat a more simplistic less diverse version that will also subsequently be adaptable for other platforms.


I will though, as I stated, continue my life in the galaxy and adapt as I have in the past, trying to be the best example of a Jedi as I can be.


I hope you will as well.





Te'Mo Ama
ORDER

(g\\\\[w]gg{gggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg)

Dark Jedi Elder
Kettemoor

mk86
Sun Nov 06, 2005 9:52 pm
#6

that is a great and honest story...





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obitown
Sun Nov 06, 2005 9:54 pm
#7

now instead of "WOW..look at the jedi!" it will be ....."WOW..look at the medic!"
Temokett
Sun Nov 06, 2005 10:08 pm
#8






mk86 wrote:

that is a great and honest story...








Thank you







obitown wrote:

now instead of "WOW..look at the jedi!" it will be ....."WOW..look at the medic!"






Yeah, I think for a while it will be that way. But then againa lot of people will try it because it is new, and afterall it is Jedi. But since only the pre-cu2 unlocks have 2nd character slots, eventually more people will funnel back into the other professions. I mean HOPEFULLY!... Otherwise there will be a lot of galaxies lacking a lot of goods and services . I don't think a galaxies entire economy can rely on loot and the people who have multiple accounts.





Te'Mo Ama
ORDER

(g\\\\[w]gg{gggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg)

Dark Jedi Elder
Kettemoor

Mullet-MAN
Sun Nov 06, 2005 10:29 pm
#9

Great posts, I share in your dissapoinments.




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Jump to Light speed ........30$ X 2 60$
Rage of the Wookies....... 30$ X 2 60 $
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Paying 1,170$ and spending 1000+ hrs developing charectors and gathering items only to be told go f--- yourself .......Priceless
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Kovev
Sun Nov 06, 2005 10:51 pm
#10

A Jedi I was to be, and that path I walked from the first day of SWG. I have been Jedi through many changes, and I Jedi I shall remain. Being Jedi is not about power, it's about serving the will of the force, and honoring the code above all else. I cannot say to what end my path will take me, but I shall walk upon it so long as that is the will of the force.



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Borr_Nahm
Sun Nov 06, 2005 10:54 pm
#11

original post was good.... Almost makes me want to join the light side of the force.....



Nahhh!! But good post anyway.






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|Imperial Colonel|

xybex
Sun Nov 06, 2005 11:17 pm
#12

Absolutely wonderful post.


*Claps*



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Mullet-MAN
Sun Nov 06, 2005 11:22 pm
#13






Kovev wrote:
A Jedi I was to be, and that path I walked from the first day of SWG. I have been Jedi through many changes, and I Jedi I shall remain. Being Jedi is not about power, it's about serving the will of the force, and honoring the code above all else. I cannot say to what end my path will take me, but I shall walk upon it so long as that is the will of the force.





HEHE depending on what side you were on ..


I read somwhere the leader of the dark concil could dissband all the members...


Message Edited by Mullet-MAN on 11-06-2005 10:22 PM




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SWG an empire divided... 60$ X2 120$
Jump to Light speed ........30$ X 2 60$
Rage of the Wookies....... 30$ X 2 60 $
Trials of Obi Wan ............ 30$ X 1 30$ (not 2 because of impending doom)

Paying 1,170$ and spending 1000+ hrs developing charectors and gathering items only to be told go f--- yourself .......Priceless
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