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Thread: Question to the MD's out there

kufu
Fri Oct 07, 2005 10:00 pm
#1
Hi, I have a freind who up untill yesterday had only 3 lines in defender 4440

When we would duel i would hit this person for arond 860 w/AB an headhit. I am a MLS

Now today this person was able to change the tempplate to MD/Mls plus healing an some hancer.


After this I now hit this person for 820 same attacks. as u can see a differance of 40 points. Does this seam right to amyone?

When i had MD a few months back I would only take around 400 dmg from this person with MLS an our sabers are almost the same in fact mine isn't as good. So i wonder did MD get hit with a nerf bat or what is the deal


Thanks

minion100
Fri Oct 07, 2005 10:26 pm
#2
was he/you using force aura?



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kufu
Fri Oct 07, 2005 11:46 pm
#3
yes we both were, butI thought aura only had the effect on chance to hit not damage

Message Edited by kufu on 10-07-2005 11:48 PM

kufu
Sat Oct 08, 2005 10:51 am
#4
Well,
seams to me atm MD really isn't woth the points. I remember it being much stronger than it is now

Message Edited by kufu on 10-08-2005 10:52 AM

lovisa
Sat Oct 08, 2005 10:58 am
#5
saldy the more iniate armor you get the less it migrate so the +16 he got does not as much as the first +16 he get if you understand how i mean (i know i suck on explain)


and about force aura it add to melee defens wich mean you get alot more defens then your enemys accurate wich eman you use your min dmg instead of max dmg and it also mean you hit less offen



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kufu
Sat Oct 08, 2005 11:22 am
#6

Yeah Lovisa,


what you are telling me, explains it Ty



kufu
Sat Oct 08, 2005 11:25 am
#7

Let me just add, this has to be some of the dumbest crap I have seen in this game so far. No other profession is it worse to have master than to not have it. Is this crazy to anyone else or just me? I mean come on master defender is worse than just 4440 defender ? what the heck is that about. Lame that is all i can say about it. GOOD JOB DEVS


I love the balance



lovisa
Sat Oct 08, 2005 11:31 am
#8




kufu wrote:

Let me just add, this has to be some of the dumbest crap I have seen in this game so far. No other profession is it worse to have master than to not have it. Is this crazy to anyone else or just me? I mean come on master defender is worse than just 4440 defender ? what the heck is that about. Lame that is all i can say about it. GOOD JOB DEVS


I love the balance







hmm you got me wrong it is better to be MDEF then 4-4-4-0 in defens aspect no doubt about that


it is the same if you have a 6k resist armor and get one 7k resist the lask 1k resist wont do as much as the first 1k reist


as i am not sure on the numbers but it is soemthing like the first 6k reist is 50% resist and the last 1k add to be 53% reists .





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Skwall
Sat Oct 08, 2005 12:02 pm
#9






kufu wrote:

yes we both were, butI thought aura only had the effect on chance to hit not damage



It mitigates damage and increases "dodge."


[edit] Just realized you said he Mastered Defender.


At Master Defender you recieve 16 points of innate armor (or so), which toppled w/ Aura works out pretty decent. The only thing saving Defender is Aura stacked ontop of innate armor and melee defense. Miss an Aura and see how much a Defender really is "defender."


And yes, it is possible to hit for 800+ damage continually to a Master Defender after Armor Break. When the CU first cameout I believe Aura was 800. points to Defense which was quickly nerfed to 500 which might account for the difference in damage you noticed then from now.

Message Edited by Skwall on 10-08-2005 12:06 AM



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WizKid72
Sun Oct 09, 2005 12:05 am
#10




lovisa wrote:




kufu wrote:

Let me just add, this has to be some of the dumbest crap I have seen in this game so far. No other profession is it worse to have master than to not have it. Is this crazy to anyone else or just me? I mean come on master defender is worse than just 4440 defender ? what the heck is that about. Lame that is all i can say about it. GOOD JOB DEVS


I love the balance







hmm you got me wrong it is better to be MDEF then 4-4-4-0 in defens aspect no doubt about that


it is the same if you have a 6k resist armor and get one 7k resist the lask 1k resist wont do as much as the first 1k reist


as i am not sure on the numbers but it is soemthing like the first 6k reist is 50% resist and the last 1k add to be 53% reists .







The word you are looking for is "diminishing returns"


The higher the modifiers, the lower it adds to your ability. But it still adds.. just not as much as the first few numbers.


For the sake of arguement, it sort of halves everytime you add to the modifier. For example, 50%, 75% (25 is half of 50), 87.5% (12.5 is half of 25), 93.75% (6.25 is half of 12.5) and so on.


Notice the percentage still goes up, but slower and slower each time a modifier is added.






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lovisa
Sun Oct 09, 2005 12:06 am
#11




WizKid72 wrote:




lovisa wrote:




kufu wrote:

Let me just add, this has to be some of the dumbest crap I have seen in this game so far. No other profession is it worse to have master than to not have it. Is this crazy to anyone else or just me? I mean come on master defender is worse than just 4440 defender ? what the heck is that about. Lame that is all i can say about it. GOOD JOB DEVS


I love the balance







hmm you got me wrong it is better to be MDEF then 4-4-4-0 in defens aspect no doubt about that


it is the same if you have a 6k resist armor and get one 7k resist the lask 1k resist wont do as much as the first 1k reist


as i am not sure on the numbers but it is soemthing like the first 6k reist is 50% resist and the last 1k add to be 53% reists .







The word you are looking for is "diminishing returns"


The higher the modifiers, the lower it adds to your ability. But it still adds.. just not as much as the first few numbers.


For the sake of arguement, it sort of halves everytime you add to the modifier. For example, 50%, 75% (25 is half of 50), 87.5% (12.5 is half of 25), 93.75% (6.25 is half of 12.5) and so on.


Notice the percentage still goes up, but slower and slower each time a modifier is added.






thanks for sort it for me



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/waypoint -323 -5620
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