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Thread: OMG I am so sick of this...
This is going to get me SO flammed but I don't care... It has to be said.
As a Jedi myself I have come to the forums here to read what people post at least 3 times a week. Every other post I have read however, is about how Jedi are too weak and BHs are too strong. So I decide to check the BH forums. They tell me it's reversed where BHs are too weak and Jedi are too strong. Is it possible people can't figure this out besides me? Jedi is such a diverse profession, that it is IMPOSSIBLE to make it fair for everyone. Jedi who are new, up to about 3/4th temp are going to have BH trouble. There is no real way to stop it besides the 0 vis idea, which is, despite what some will say, difficult.
CM is a difficult profession to beat for some Jedi, and an easy one for others. I am just amazed that people can't understand that the differences in a Jedi’s skills can cause different results in these fights. This is NOT directed towards only Jedi, but BHs as well since they behave the same way. It is true that Pre CU Jedi have distinct advantages then Post. I understand that Pre Jedi have better damage outputs then Post, but also understand that the number of Jedi since the CU have SKYROCKETED. With this said, so has the number of BHs, to the point where about 80% of all primary chars on the servers are one or the other. With the crystals/pearls broken, as well as the FRS sure Jedi are not as powerful as they could be, but that is something that people are going to have to deal with. It is impossible for SOE (which, mind you I hate as a company) to please everyone here. Imagine if a newer Jedi with a weak saber could stand up to and easily beat a MCM/MBH. How would a full temp fair? It would be a slaughter to the BH. I understand that this is in NO way comparable to the movies where a Jedi would be considered one of the strongest fighters, but again... Imagine that same scenario. If full temp Jedi could defeat them so easily there would be literally no challenge to them and there would be nothing for them to do but the basic looting. Also, with the differences between newer Jedi and older, the newer Jedi would STILL not stand a chance. In order to maintain any kind of balance for the older Jedi, the younger must suffer. There is no way around this. Now I don't support BHs either mind you. It is rare to get a diverse set of BHs to come after you. It is always the MCM/MBH prof (or the proclaimed "I win" prof). I believe the BHs should try other profs, however when beating a Jedi is as easy as it is with those profs it's not going to happen. I would like to see a change to the system myself, however, there is no way to balance the weaker without unbalancing the older Jedi, and vice versa. It is a vicious cycle.
Now please… Let the flames commence...
Heero6528 wrote:
This is going to get me SO flammed but I don't care... It has to be said.
As a Jedi myself I have come to the forums here to read what people post at least 3 times a week. Every other post I have read however, is about how Jedi are too weak and BHs are too strong. So I decide to check the BH forums. They tell me it's reversed where BHs are too weak and Jedi are too strong. Is it possible people can't figure this out besides me? Jedi is such a diverse profession, that it is IMPOSSIBLE to make it fair for everyone. Jedi who are new, up to about 3/4th temp are going to have BH trouble. There is no real way to stop it besides the 0 vis idea, which is, despite what some will say, difficult.
CM is a difficult profession to beat for some Jedi, and an easy one for others. I am just amazed that people can't understand that the differences in a Jedi’s skills can cause different results in these fights. This is NOT directed towards only Jedi, but BHs as well since they behave the same way. It is true that Pre CU Jedi have distinct advantages then Post. I understand that Pre Jedi have better damage outputs then Post, but also understand that the number of Jedi since the CU have SKYROCKETED. With this said, so has the number of BHs, to the point where about 80% of all primary chars on the servers are one or the other. With the crystals/pearls broken, as well as the FRS sure Jedi are not as powerful as they could be, but that is something that people are going to have to deal with. It is impossible for SOE (which, mind you I hate as a company) to please everyone here. Imagine if a newer Jedi with a weak saber could stand up to and easily beat a MCM/MBH. How would a full temp fair? It would be a slaughter to the BH. I understand that this is in NO way comparable to the movies where a Jedi would be considered one of the strongest fighters, but again... Imagine that same scenario. If full temp Jedi could defeat them so easily there would be literally no challenge to them and there would be nothing for them to do but the basic looting. Also, with the differences between newer Jedi and older, the newer Jedi would STILL not stand a chance. In order to maintain any kind of balance for the older Jedi, the younger must suffer. There is no way around this. Now I don't support BHs either mind you. It is rare to get a diverse set of BHs to come after you. It is always the MCM/MBH prof (or the proclaimed "I win" prof). I believe the BHs should try other profs, however when beating a Jedi is as easy as it is with those profs it's not going to happen. I would like to see a change to the system myself, however, there is no way to balance the weaker without unbalancing the older Jedi, and vice versa. It is a vicious cycle.
Now please… Let the flames commence...
Lets start with visibility.
Pre-cu jedi used to grind alone, it was slow and boring. Post cu you have the ability to grind in a group, its alot more fun, and takes some of the pain out of the xp needed. Generally these grind groups happen on planets that are populated, and more often than not, out of player cities now.
Pre cu to avoid flybys and such we used to hunt out on endor, dath, yavin etc. We knew that by hunting on populated planets the increase to gaining visability was going to rise considerablly. That was a choice / risk many took as the advantage back then was having a doc nearby to rez if you died (jedi used to lose 200k xp for cloning) a doc so you could buff up, a safe house / cantina and a dancer for the mind buffs.
Message Edited by Leiowyn on 10-04-200512:43 PM
Message Edited by Leiowyn on 10-04-2005 12:44 PM
whitethunder wrote:
If your temp isnt the FOTM MLS/MDEF variants the BH/CM isnt that big of deal. I think instead of crying about loosing to a BH/CM if you are one of those FOTM temps, GRIND OUT ANOTHER ONE !!!! Oh wait, you can't AFK grind on kash anymore, so is it too hard now ??
And that's a ridicilous statement.
or seeing how much vis one has.
Mina- wrote:
OMFG your soooo right yet sooo wrong.