Jedi Archive
Thread: Treatise on Etiquette
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Oss_Wilum
Wed Oct 12, 2005 10:32 pm
#1
In forum discussion, there are several rules to which one must adhere if the conversation is to be entertaining, informative (in more ways that simply giving the requested information), as well as memorable. These rules include, but are not limited to, the following principles:
1) If someone asks a stupid question, give them a stupid answer.
Noobs are fun for everyone. Their lack of research on a topic, entitlement to respect, and righteous indignation when called on their lazinessmakes my heart smile. Should a Noob start a thread that has a stupid premise, a moronic appraisal of a situation, or a thread that is generally complaining over a trite issue, it is your duty as a denizen of this forum to deliver to them a severe backhand, or more specifically tongue lashing such that their embarrassment has the effect of instilling greater thought on a matter than they would have previously exercised.
If you intend to fulfill that duty, you must first take careful measures to ensure that they are, in fact, a noob, and not just an idiot. Good indicators are:
Registration date - reliable, but not infallible. Many noob apologists will say this is irrelevant, but the exceptions to this general theory are the ones who prove it's correctness.
Post History - If you take the time to examine their previous posts, the full scope of their mind may become clearer. If the majority of their posts are uninformed, exclamatory, or otherwise ignorant, you most likely have a noob on your hands. Note: a large proportion of posts where the only text is "QFE" (quoted for emphasis) is generally not a noob, but a moron, so make sure you know just what animal you're dealing with.
New Threads that Address the Same Topic as Other Threads - clearest indication of a noob. This practice indicates laziness, the propensity to be an attention wh0re, and general disrespect for other posters. It is very easy to distinguish noobs and sometimes even idiots by this observation, especially when combined with the previous methods.
Post Count - This is not a reliable method to determine whether someone is a noob or not. A distant registration date combined with a low post count often indicates a master of forum practice, an observer and internal analyzer, not a loudmouthed contributor.
2) If one is calls anotheron spelling or grammar, that person's opinion MUST be immediately rendered as void. The idea that one must adhere to stringent rules of grammar, beyond a reasonable degree, on an online forum is positively absurd. Any idea presented clearly enough to understand or criticize is written well enough so as not to require involvement of the grammar police. This practice most often reveals a flaw in the error citer's arguement, rather than an actual problem with comprehension.
3) Discussions about the relative power of a profession should not be immediately cast aside as a nerf call or whine. Only in the case that objectively, it is an inconcievably unreasonable appraisal of a situation should the post be ridiculed and the poster be re-educated. If you are compelled to call it inconcievably unreasonable, you must first ask yourself: "is it possible for me to view this objectively? Am i doing so? If not, why is that? Is that a fair motive for not being objective?" Depending on your answers, it may be best to leave that post alone, lest you reveal youself to be of a class of 1) noob, 2) moron, or 3) idiot.
clarifications on the use of terms:
Noob: an inexperienced player, perhaps still in love with the star wars aura of SWG or who has fallen upon bandwagon ideals and sentiments. Their arguments are seldom articulated, their flames even less so. Their appraisals of situations typically come from a selfish or vindictive point of view and their most common complaints are about difficulty. This is the type of poster who typically asks the stupidest questions.
Moron: could be a very experienced player or a player with moderate experience. Often their ideas are also based on bandwagon sentiments. This is most typically the poster who calls others on grammar. Ignorance is their chief defense. Through either ignorance on the true working of a skill, despite their knowledge of it, their lack of willingness to learn from the wisdom of others, or other reasons, their posts hardly ever contain useful or entertaining information.
Idiot: a real tragedy. This type of player has experience, but simply cannot understand the workings of the various systems in SWG. Their ideas are not so much bandwagon as they typically are the first to have such mindbogglingly stupid ideas. The idiot will typically not ask questions so much as attempt to sway others to their idiot point of view, in the hope of landing impressionable morons onto their bandwagon.
In summation: With the aforementioned rules of etiquette, the forums can be a place for discussion, as well as enrichment of one's mind and writing ability, and also of their critical thinking abilities. Remaining objective in all cases deciding the category of something is of paramount importance. Without objectivity, it is impossible to correctly ascertain the identity of noobs, morons, or idiots.
Thank you.
Message Edited by Oss_Wilum on 10-12-2005 10:37 PM
rhaws
Wed Oct 12, 2005 10:45 pm
#3
Oss_Wilum wrote:
In forum discussion, there are several rules to which one must adhere if the conversation is to be entertaining, informative (in more ways that simply giving the requested information), as well as memorable. These rules include, but are not limited to, the following principles:
1) If someone asks a stupid question, give them a stupid answer.
Noobs are fun for everyone. Their lack of research on a topic, entitlement to respect, and righteous indignation when called on their lazinessmakes my heart smile. Should a Noob start a thread that has a stupid premise, a moronic appraisal of a situation, or a thread that is generally complaining over a trite issue, it is your duty as a denizen of this forum to deliver to them a severe backhand, or more specifically tongue lashing such that their embarrassment has the effect of instilling greater thought on a matter than they would have previously exercised.
If you intend to fulfill that duty, you must first take careful measures to ensure that they are, in fact, a noob, and not just an idiot. Good indicators are:
Registration date - reliable, but not infallible. Many noob apologists will say this is irrelevant, but the exceptions to this general theory are the ones who prove it's correctness.
Post History - If you take the time to examine their previous posts, the full scope of their mind may become clearer. If the majority of their posts are uninformed, exclamatory, or otherwise ignorant, you most likely have a noob on your hands. Note: a large proportion of posts where the only text is "QFE" (quoted for emphasis) is generally not a noob, but a moron, so make sure you know just what animal you're dealing with.
New Threads that Address the Same Topic as Other Threads - clearest indication of a noob. This practice indicates laziness, the propensity to be an attention wh0re, and general disrespect for other posters. It is very easy to distinguish noobs and sometimes even idiots by this observation, especially when combined with the previous methods.
Post Count - This is not a reliable method to determine whether someone is a noob or not. A distant registration date combined with a low post count often indicates a master of forum practice, an observer and internal analyzer, not a loudmouthed contributor.
2) If one is calls anotheron spelling or grammar, that person's opinion MUST be immediately rendered as void. The idea that one must adhere to stringent rules of grammar, beyond a reasonable degree, on an online forum is positively absurd. Any idea presented clearly enough to understand or criticize is written well enough so as not to require involvement of the grammar police. This practice most often reveals a flaw in the error citer's arguement, rather than an actual problem with comprehension.
3) Discussions about the relative power of a profession should not be immediately cast aside as a nerf call or whine. Only in the case that objectively, it is an inconcievably unreasonable appraisal of a situation should the post be ridiculed and the poster be re-educated. If you are compelled to call it inconcievably unreasonable, you must first ask yourself: "is it possible for me to view this objectively? Am i doing so? If not, why is that? Is that a fair motive for not being objective?" Depending on your answers, it may be best to leave that post alone, lest you reveal youself to be of a class of 1) noob, 2) moron, or 3) idiot.
clarifications on the use of terms:
Noob: an inexperienced player, perhaps still in love with the star wars aura of SWG or who has fallen upon bandwagon ideals and sentiments. Their arguments are seldom articulated, their flames even less so. Their appraisals of situations typically come from a selfish or vindictive point of view and their most common complaints are about difficulty. This is the type of poster who typically asks the stupidest questions.
Moron: could be a very experienced player or a player with moderate experience. Often their ideas are also based on bandwagon sentiments. This is most typically the poster who calls others on grammar. Ignorance is their chief defense. Through either ignorance on the true working of a skill, despite their knowledge of it, their lack of willingness to learn from the wisdom of others, or other reasons, their posts hardly ever contain useful or entertaining information.
Idiot: a real tragedy. This type of player has experience, but simply cannot understand the workings of the various systems in SWG. Their ideas are not so much bandwagon as they typically are the first to have such mindbogglingly stupid ideas. The idiot will typically not ask questions so much as attempt to sway others to their idiot point of view, in the hope of landing impressionable morons onto their bandwagon.
In summation: With the aforementioned rules of etiquette, the forums can be a place for discussion, as well as enrichment of one's mind and writing ability, and also of their critical thinking abilities. Remaining objective in all cases deciding the category of something is of paramount importance. Without objectivity, it is impossible to correctly ascertain the identity of noobs, morons, or idiots.
Thank you.
Message Edited by Oss_Wilum on 10-12-2005 10:37 PM
you are a waste of energy
Tiberius-
Thu Oct 13, 2005 12:08 pm
#4
OP - is a noob AND a moron
Yes - lets pick on new players who dont know stuff - riiiiight cause all the servers are way overpopulatde and we should go out of our way to NOT help ppl.
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