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Thread: Doesnt it scare you guys that we are the ones who find the flaws in this game?

KRAKEN666
Thu Oct 06, 2005 6:58 pm
#1

The player base, not quality control or the devs, are finding all the bugs, cheats, exploits, and any other flaw in this game, not the people who are paid to do it. We constantly bring it up and still the devs do nothing to fix them. Now being master defender does nothing for you since you only get the protection type of the weapon you use. hence, we fight with a saber so we get no ranged protection. then what the he11 is mdef for? unless your neighborhood bh is going to come after you with a sword, the defense is useless. This is the only mmorpg where you are, "ACTUALLY BRINGING A KNIFE TO A GUN FIGHT."
Zemon
Thu Oct 06, 2005 7:05 pm
#2

How does your Master Defender do against another Jedi?


Is it possible to change your template to fight the type of template you want?


Or, do you just want an "I win and PAWN" all other templates?



Rock, papper, scissors. Ever heard of that game? If you played that one, you would cry, "I am Rock, scissors is fine, but papper needs to be balanced".



/sarcasum off





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KRAKEN666
Thu Oct 06, 2005 7:07 pm
#3


not enough trolls in the bh forums? just take warning mr bh, you see what happend to jedi when every one thought they were too strong, guess who's next on he nerf list.
Zemon
Thu Oct 06, 2005 7:16 pm
#4

Yes, you are right. Let me step back from our argument and turn to a debate insted. Let us drop the Professon tags and focus on the issues.


For some reason, almost evertime someone can not defeat another template, they cry "nerf" or "exploit". We need to stop defending our opinions based on, "well, you were crying last week about <insert complaint here>".


Yes, it is good that the Player base is involed enough to point out the problems with the game. I too wish there were no problems. But, there are. Perhaps we should focus on the fixes for the professons (the oneswe like the best) and concintrate on thier improvement. Insted of tearing down others' to bring our own up.


Let me give you an example. Would a Jedi be conserned with the percevied power of a CM if he had flawless pearles?




ZEMON "The Zany Zabrak" KIMBALL
Elder Jedi * Leader of IMPS * Anyone seen a BH?
<-------------~~~~~ :IMPS: ~~~~~------------->
EAMON "Lone Wolf" KIMBALL
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scoodoobydoo
Thu Oct 06, 2005 7:27 pm
#5

my signature was stolen by you Zemon i wondered where it had gone!!


roflmfao



" jedi should be hard because being a jedi is your reward shouldnt be able to mess around and have fun"
"well this is a game for fun messing around is fun and if your that much of a
pr!ck irl you need to get laid"

"I am Scissors, Paper is fine, but Rock needs to be balanced"

Be careful... remember when Tiggs and Thunderheart acknowledged the pearl drop problem with premium / flawless? Look what came out of that one. *Can't fix it.. so you screw you guys
scoodoobydoo
Thu Oct 06, 2005 7:30 pm
#6

heaven is a halfpipe!



" jedi should be hard because being a jedi is your reward shouldnt be able to mess around and have fun"
"well this is a game for fun messing around is fun and if your that much of a
pr!ck irl you need to get laid"

"I am Scissors, Paper is fine, but Rock needs to be balanced"

Be careful... remember when Tiggs and Thunderheart acknowledged the pearl drop problem with premium / flawless? Look what came out of that one. *Can't fix it.. so you screw you guys
BukuJohnson
Thu Oct 06, 2005 7:31 pm
#7

Let me give you an example. Would a Jedi be conserned with the percevied power of a CM if he had flawless pearles?
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It is not about trading the reactivation of a currently disabled feature for keeping something that is unbalanced in game.

As much as I love the skills a CM has (man I wish we all had this kind of stuff in one tree) I think that there are some tweaks needed.

Having an exceptional mez, 3 seperate DOT, a 40% combat speed debuff, an action and mind regen debuff, a state defense debuff, a powerful snare, three types of heals on seperate timers, the ability to rez, defenses, armor certs, and enough skill points to easily add another one and a half elite professions is just a bit too much.


Buku
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DeeckTator
Thu Oct 06, 2005 7:33 pm
#8






KRAKEN666 wrote:

The player base, not quality control or the devs, are finding all the bugs, cheats, exploits, and any other flaw in this game, not the people who are paid to do it. We constantly bring it up and still the devs do nothing to fix them. Now being master defender does nothing for you since you only get the protection type of the weapon you use. hence, we fight with a saber so we get no ranged protection. then what the he11 is mdef for? unless your neighborhood bh is going to come after you with a sword, the defense is useless. This is the only mmorpg where you are, "ACTUALLY BRINGING A KNIFE TO A GUN FIGHT."





I totally agree that the players are the ones finding the bugs.. however Mdef do help, you get some nice mods in Mdef and AI, however the whole x4xx line is useless for jedi atm (atm means the next year in this case I guess) I might have misunderstood what you ment when you said we get no ranged def, it uses ur melee defence against ranged when wielding a melee weapon so if you have 300 melee defence and use a saber you also have 300 ranged def when attack by a gun, mo matter what your ranged def is...

Message Edited by DeeckTator on 10-06-2005 07:33 PM



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KRAKEN666
Thu Oct 06, 2005 7:33 pm
#9


most say no, but flawless pearls are going to be very rare, very sought after, and unless you want to spend the time of harvesting a 1000 pearls, you wont get one according to the devs calculations. everyone is thinking that they are going to get on the first krayt they kill. not so. the better benifit is get rid of uber healing hybrids. a jedi stands a better chance of fighting a bh withlesser healing ability and a not so strong saber rather than trying to collect an extremely rare pearl. and have to collect 5 to boot.
Halfalife
Thu Oct 06, 2005 7:33 pm
#10






KRAKEN666 wrote:

The player base, not quality control or the devs, are finding all the bugs, cheats, exploits, and any other flaw in this game, not the people who are paid to do it. We constantly bring it up and still the devs do nothing to fix them. Now being master defender does nothing for you since you only get the protection type of the weapon you use. hence, we fight with a saber so we get no ranged protection. then what the he11 is mdef for? unless your neighborhood bh is going to come after you with a sword, the defense is useless. This is the only mmorpg where you are, "ACTUALLY BRINGING A KNIFE TO A GUN FIGHT."





Yeah I wish they would fix things too, but I am glad for this master defender nerfage. I was a master defender when the combat upgrade came out, then everyone became a master defender so I decided to change. I am glad I did and wouldnt regret it even if it wasn't nerfed at all. In my opinion mdef needs the nerfing and anyone that cries about it just needs to realize two things.


1) Its a video game...


2) You arn't stuck with the same template. You can re grind or you can stay being a master defender... still be good but maybe not as good.



I dont like it when people whine about such stupid things.





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Zemon
Thu Oct 06, 2005 7:34 pm
#11






scoodoobydoo wrote:

my signature was stolen by you Zemon i wondered where it had gone!!


roflmfao





Strange, but just a coincidence. You know what they say, "Great minds travel the same path". Then again, so do train wrecks.



ZEMON "The Zany Zabrak" KIMBALL
Elder Jedi * Leader of IMPS * Anyone seen a BH?
<-------------~~~~~ :IMPS: ~~~~~------------->
EAMON "Lone Wolf" KIMBALL
Elder Bounty Hunter * IMPS * /bountycheck; /accept;

Should you defeat me in battle, have the courtesy to /spit on my corpse. For I am Imperial and you are Rebel scum!

Zelerex Online - Massively Multiplayer Strategy Game - Employer ID: 68860
AtonuTragona
Thu Oct 06, 2005 7:47 pm
#12

The bugs are scary.


What is worse is that the worthless pieces of trash at SOE are shoving another expansion down our throats instead fxing the broken peice of garbage they created with the Combat Nerf.


I guess I could look at the bright side - They haven't anounced another "upgrade" before the expansion.


KRAKEN666
Thu Oct 06, 2005 7:53 pm
#13

halfalife, you need to change that to halfabrain...this isnt a nerf, its a bug with defender. and wha kind of jedi is glad to see nerfs on their own profesion. you are the worrst kind of jedi you can be. a traitor to your own proffesion.
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