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Thread: I know, I know, base temp upon my playstyle...

Philosofikal
Fri Sep 23, 2005 7:48 am
#1

I have reading temps for the last few days and still not sure what to have. I need help with this from someone with good knowledge on different temps. I want to do high end pve such as Necrosis, DWB, Vette, etc since never able to back in the day when they went live. I also want to pvp with my guild and not be horrible, what do you suggest for my playing wishes. I was thinking mls/def 444x/enh3xx2/heal3xxx. Currently, I have ls1232/def2121/enh2xx2/heal2xxx and novice powers. help a brotha out!



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Margantuacca
Fri Sep 23, 2005 7:56 am
#2

Actually, you will be able to get HEAL 4000 with that temp. Seems like a solid template, but then again I have never used it. MDEF LS 0444 ENH 3002 HEAL 4000 worked pretty well for me for a while though.
Philosofikal
Fri Sep 23, 2005 8:18 am
#3

do you think mls/mdef would be better?



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RJUK
Fri Sep 23, 2005 8:21 am
#4

My favorite template WHICH I think makes Jedi powerful is...


Master Sabers // Defender 4440 // Healer 4000 // Enhancer 3002


This template is sooooo Uber it's not even funny. Amazing in PvP & PvE... since i'm leaving the game soon I thought i'd share it with you


Have Fun!!





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khalis
Fri Sep 23, 2005 8:24 am
#5

I have to tell you that I have a temp very close to the one you posted here (MLS - Def 4x4x - Enh 34x2 - Heal 4xxx) and from personal experience the versitile nature of a template long these lines leads to a very enjoyable play experience regardless of what aspect you are in pursuit of. I could suggest to you either template combination, though I would have to say that MLS/Mdef really leaves you limited in your abilities. You would have to give up most of your Enh abilities to pick up the dual mastery so that you could maintain the heals. Just my thoughts though.



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Philosofikal
Fri Sep 23, 2005 8:25 am
#6

good, what i'm headed towards



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Margantuacca
Fri Sep 23, 2005 8:31 am
#7

I just finished retemplating to MLS/MDEF yesterday. First impressions... loving adv saber throw, not so impressed by dervish. I also really miss having enh 3000 in my temp. I kept ENH 0002 in, but thinking of switching to 2000. But, I will keep MLS MDEF for a little while at least to see what it's advantages are.
Philosofikal
Fri Sep 23, 2005 8:43 am
#8

so think I will go with my temp I am headed towards, will be easy enough if not able to hold own in pve's to pick up rest of def.



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Eskie
Fri Sep 23, 2005 8:50 am
#9



Philosofikal wrote:
do you think mls/mdef would be better?




No. MLS / MDef is specialized in damage dealing and defense and misses out on either Force management, healing or crowd control at least. I wouldnt sacrifice that versatility for a double mastery, since in 1 vs 1 you live by being able to adapt.
Example:
MDef / MLS / Heal 3000 / Enh 2000 - other Jedi will root / drain Force
MDef / MLS / Heal 3000 / Enh 0002 - BHs will kite
MDef / MLS / Heal 4040 - Can be kited and pretty vulnerable to draining

The MDef / MLS / Heal 3000 / Enh 0002 is the best PvE template since NPCs dont kite, however.

You get far more out of MLS / Def 4440 / Enh 3002 / Heal 4000 or MLS / Def 4040 / Enh 3402 / Heal 4000 if you are looking for a template that is good (not best) in PvE and PvP.



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HarlequinMK19
Fri Sep 23, 2005 8:54 am
#10



MLS/MDef, while it may be a FOTM is still a solid template. The primary point of contention is that in PvP, the Armor Break will negate a lot of the defenses, and as such, someone with 4x4x Defender/x4xx Enhancer will actually have higher Innate Armor than a Master Defender will. However, the nice thing about M. Defender is that you will have 70 Innate Armor, and it will be "free". Your Force will hold up for a quite a while with M. Defender, which is a distinct advantage.


The other downfall of M. Defender is that Dominate Mind is very limited in use, as is Force Valor (although it is admittedly nice when you get swarmed by ranged fighters in PvE.) Avoid Incapacitation is nice to have should things take a turn for the worst, but it's use is eqaully limited, and in my opinion, if you use AI in PvP, you're pretty much dead anyway...although this is not always the case.


MLS/MDef is great for PvE if you want to do solo hunting or be a tank, as it gives you endurance since you don't use a lot of Force. Just realize that with all those SP tied up in dual mastery you're giving up a lot, as you're only left with a few points for dabbling. It's a tried and true template...it just has some shortcomings and isn't very exciting. Your offense will be adequate, but in my opinion you'll need to tailor it to get additonal offense from somewhere else. Just giving you some feedback.



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ArcherGuy
Fri Sep 23, 2005 9:03 am
#11

i had mls/mdef 3000healer 0002 ehn, but i couldnt move during the AI. I ground out and went, mls/mdef 3002 ehn, novice healer. I know there isnt a lot of healing i can do but with rubil biel (which i dont use) and stimpacks (I do use) i am okay. I mainly hunt with a lot of guildmates and they do most of the healing otherwise stimpack/forceheal or ai. I Love this template but wish i could have more healing.


On the brightside with fr1 on, your AI snare is like normal running. It is handy also for chasing after bh's. Just remember to time your healing and your stimpacks. I have yet to fall to a bh 1 on 1, execpt when I had a Grand Krayt, and 2 ancients on me plus a bh. (just couldnt take the hits, and paniced).






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