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trajen2

Thu Sep 15, 2005 8:33 am

Based on some of the recent feedback from Master Enhancers, it seems that the ability to select the level of Force Run used would be a particularly useful implementation. Although not un-balancing, it would be an 'enhancement' to the enhancer profession which could cause some backlash.

Many template combos have at least FR1 in their build and get the benefit of FR without the damage reduction. This is very useful when hit with a CM speed debuf or force wave; however, MEs benefit with the greater speed but the damage reduction is too significant to be effective.

I can see the use of FR3 when the ME's role is crowd contol, appliying snares, roots, and stasis. However, when the ME needs to go solo or is in BH combat, he should be able to use FR1 rather then FR3. It makes sense and does not seem to be unbalancing.

My best solution to this would be to keep FR2 and FR3 the same speeds with the same damage reduction. My 'enhancment' would be on FR1 by making it a timed 'movement speed buff' rather than an on/off skill, similar to force shield or absorb. The problem with this solution is if it is considered a separate skill, would it stack with FR2 or FR3? It would be cool if it did, but would be considered unbalanced if the devs have already reduced FR3 to be below the speed of a swoop. Another viable solution would be to make the effective time of FR1 significantly shorter, perhaps 90 seconds, and make it stackable. That way, even while using FR3 you could use the 'movement speed buff' to give you an edge . . .

Just a few solutions to an issue that seems to be hot at the moment; lets hope it catches the eyes of someone who can make difference. I realize that all professions have needs and appreciate their concerns; I can only speak from a ME perspective so am in no way tryign to exclude the needs of other profs . . .

Thanks for your time and lets see if we can generate some good ideas for the powers that be.

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ahood

Thu Sep 15, 2005 8:54 am

#2

This is a good one. As long is there a way a Master Enhancer can somehow gain access to the lower level FR1 I'll be happy.

Another idea I have heard is splitting them into 2 abilities.

FR1 stays FR1

FR2 becomes ForceSprint1 with the FR2 damage reduction and a speed increase equal to the difference in FR1 and FR2. That way it can be stacked with FR1 but the total effect is the same as FR2 now

FR3 becomes ForceSprint2, as above

This makes no change at all to the actual abilities - but just provides a way to give Enhancers access to the lower tier FR - which is so important it actually worth thinking about dropping the Mastery just to get it.

HyperTension

Thu Sep 15, 2005 8:56 am

#3

yeah thats the realy only thing i dont like about me is i cant use run 1 all the time when i am not trying to get away lol

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trajen2

Thu Sep 15, 2005 9:00 am

#4

HyperTension wrote:
yeah thats the realy only thing i dont like about me is i cant use run 1 all the time when i am not trying to get away lol

and that's the thing... many many people have at least FR1 creating a new base speed at which jedi move. I feel like a slug when I am trying to PvP. Sure i can turn FR3 off and on but that costs force each activation AND there are times when I use it to close the distance, turn it 'off' and for whatever reason it doesnt turn off.

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Don_T_Shoot

Thu Sep 15, 2005 9:13 am

#5

ahood wrote:

This is a good one. As long is there a way a Master Enhancer can somehow gain access to the lower level FR1 I'll be happy.

Another idea I have heard is splitting them into 2 abilities.

FR1 stays FR1

FR2 becomes ForceSprint1 with the FR2 damage reduction and a speed increase equal to the difference in FR1 and FR2. That way it can be stacked with FR1 but the total effect is the same as FR2 now

FR3 becomes ForceSprint2, as above

This makes no change at all to the actual abilities - but just provides a way to give Enhancers access to the lower tier FR - which is so important it actually worth thinking about dropping the Mastery just to get it.

Or

Split them into two like you said, leave them the same otherwise and no stacking. It's obviously not hard for them to put in a no stacking rule. Foods/Drinks, Force Speed/Doc speed buffs don't stack. It shouldn't be any different that two running abilities won't stack. In fact, Burst Run and Force no longer stack, so it should be trivial to introduce this idea.

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bigs-

Thu Sep 15, 2005 9:29 am

#6

I agree, I myself have trouble with this trying to chase a BH with having to toggle FR3 off and on at its high force cost.

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ADEPTMBH

Thu Sep 15, 2005 9:35 am

#7

You have my vote! It is not productive to toggle FR3, too much FC. I would be happy with a FR1 speed buff at master, then I wouldnt mind toggling FR3 when things get nasty.

trajen2

Thu Sep 15, 2005 9:56 am

#8

ahood wrote:

This is a good one. As long is there a way a Master Enhancer can somehow gain access to the lower level FR1 I'll be happy.

This makes no change at all to the actual abilities - but just provides a way to give Enhancers access to the lower tier FR - which is so important it actually worth thinking about dropping the Mastery just to get it.

i have already thought about dropping the master and going back to Enh 3400 and picking up more defender or healing. . . FR3 seems to be a greater liability than it is benefit; for that reason, a change seems necessary

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VickLoco

Thu Sep 15, 2005 10:19 am

#9

I will be sitting at 3/4/0/4 Enhancer with 5 mill xp banked till they change it, so I can go master enhancer. If they don't, well that is just banked xp then....It is something that definetly needs changed

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