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Thread: MLS/MDEF and BH are going to love the new SQUADLEADER stuff.
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EVILxWARLOCK
Sat Sep 03, 2005 8:34 am
#1
On TC is the patch notes for the new SL stuff. Now from what i read on it ( "Multiple Squad Leaders can combine their skills for greater group enhancement." ) it looks like their stuff will stack.
This is why i think they will like it the BH and MLS/MDEF.
If it does stack BH going after Jedi will have a few SL with them and can you just see 4 SL with 4 MLS/MDEF with ENH 3000.
Form Up (Mobility II) - Enhances group movement speed.
Will make them much harder to hit.
Tactics (Tactics I) - Enhances group defenses.
Should add to defender and bh defences.
Call to Arms (Strategy III) - Enhances group armor ratings.
Should add to defender and bh armor.
Steady Aim (Strategy I) - Enhances group accuracy.
MLS and BH will miss less and hit harder.
Blaze of Glory (Tactics III) - Gives or enhances the chance to score a critical hit.
MLS and BH good also.
Double Time (Tactics IV) - Reduces cooldown times for group members.
BH will hit faster.
MLS will be able to do Saber throw, head hit, body hit and leg hit moves every second if there saber is not to slow.
They will be able to do power hit much faster also.
Boost Morale (Leadership IV) - Enhances group Action/Mind regeneration.
If this stacks with food MLS and BH will never run out of mind or action or it will be very hard to run out.
Now if the SL are able to stack their stuff and this stuff also stacks with food i see some major unbalancing comeing.
Now i am not saying SL should not get the stuff i just hope it does not stack, with each other or food.
I also see atleast 1 SL with every BH after a Jedi. I hope the SL can not help a BH on after a Jedi or the Jedi better be able to attack the SL.
Message Edited by EVILxWARLOCK on 09-03-2005 08:42 AM
FarSuperior
Sat Sep 03, 2005 9:06 am
#3
it wont be impossible to kill these people... its easy go for the SLs first once they are taken out the jedi / BH will be easy picking
tactics people tactics
lambs
Sat Sep 03, 2005 9:10 am
#4
I haven't tried TC yet, however, I was a MSL post-cu and the defense abilities did not stack for MDef. (or I should say the buff icon flashed for a second then dropped off, yet remained for the rest of the group) the defense and accuracy buff did not stick for them either....granted MSL we never really knew if things were working or not.
I did noticed that it would stack for BH's with their defense ability...remember this was all before trying anything on TC.
I am curious as well if the dev's have thought of those scenarios of BH's and/or MDef/MLs or really any jedi grouped with squadleaders.
we may need to wait and see to get more info from the TC squadleaders feed back.
hope this little bit of infor helped.
/cheers for SL love from the dev's...I only hope the abilities and buffs actually work
Leanardo
Sat Sep 03, 2005 9:12 am
#5
BH will always rule. All he needs to do is find 2 guys in his guild or something with sl. The jedi will be hunting on dantooine adn cant find a sl and just screw it. Bh has the element of suprise so he will always have sl ready, jedi wont.
Leo
MasterSheep
Sat Sep 03, 2005 9:42 am
#6
think your forgetting a grouped SL wont be any use to a BH in BH vs Jedi combat - once the BH activates the TEF the SL wont be able to help - just like healers etc cant help once tef is active - also the SL wont even be able to pain the jedi etc for acc bonus pre combat as it will just throw up "invalid target"
Niccolado
Sat Sep 03, 2005 1:28 pm
#7
Will it be possible for a BH to draw gain from this is fight with BHs? I mean, to bring a Squadleader with him on his hunt for jedi. The Squadie cant attack, but will the SL mods still apply to the BH?
Cybertor
Sat Sep 03, 2005 1:29 pm
#8
EVILxWARLOCK wrote:
On TC is the patch notes for the new SL stuff. Now from what i read on it ( "Multiple Squad Leaders can combine their skills for greater group enhancement." ) it looks like their stuff will stack.
This is why i think they will like it the BH and MLS/MDEF.
If it does stack BH going after Jedi will have a few SL with them and can you just see 4 SL with 4 MLS/MDEF with ENH 3000.
Form Up (Mobility II) - Enhances group movement speed.
Will make them much harder to hit.
Tactics (Tactics I) - Enhances group defenses.
Should add to defender and bh defences.
Call to Arms (Strategy III) - Enhances group armor ratings.
Should add to defender and bh armor.
Steady Aim (Strategy I) - Enhances group accuracy.
MLS and BH will miss less and hit harder.
Blaze of Glory (Tactics III) - Gives or enhances the chance to score a critical hit.
MLS and BH good also.
Double Time (Tactics IV) - Reduces cooldown times for group members.
BH will hit faster.
MLS will be able to do Saber throw, head hit, body hit and leg hit moves every second if there saber is not to slow.
They will be able to do power hit much faster also.
Not to flame but with ppl exploiting timers atm Is this part really a good idea? lol
Boost Morale (Leadership IV) - Enhances group Action/Mind regeneration.
If this stacks with food MLS and BH will never run out of mind or action or it will be very hard to run out.
Now if the SL are able to stack their stuff and this stuff also stacks with food i see some major unbalancing comeing.
Now i am not saying SL should not get the stuff i just hope it does not stack, with each other or food.
I also see atleast 1 SL with every BH after a Jedi. I hope the SL can not help a BH on after a Jedi or the Jedi better be able to attack the SL.
Message Edited by EVILxWARLOCK on 09-03-2005 08:42 AM
MasterSheep
Sat Sep 03, 2005 1:29 pm
#9
there are NO passive SL buffs anymore - only active ones with durations at max of 40 secs - these could be applied pre combat but not during combat - just like a doc can buff a player but couldnt reapply those buffs to a TEF target
also only one active SL buff can be on at any one time.. there is no viable application for a BH to bring a SL along as the effect of the SL would only last 30-40 secs and could only give one buff - also most of the buffs are target specific - that is the SL targets the groups target and activates the buff (like volley fire does atm) this also wouldnt work for a BH as the SL just gets invalid target when trying to apply anything to the BH mark.
Message Edited by MasterSheep on 09-03-2005 09:32 PM
Quiet420
Sat Sep 03, 2005 1:32 pm
#10
EVILxWARLOCK wrote:
On TC is the patch notes for the new SL stuff. Now from what i read on it ( "Multiple Squad Leaders can combine their skills for greater group enhancement." ) it looks like their stuff will stack.
This is why i think they will like it the BH and MLS/MDEF.
If it does stack BH going after Jedi will have a few SL with them and can you just see 4 SL with 4 MLS/MDEF with ENH 3000.
Form Up (Mobility II) - Enhances group movement speed.
Will make them much harder to hit.
Tactics (Tactics I) - Enhances group defenses.
Should add to defender and bh defences.
Call to Arms (Strategy III) - Enhances group armor ratings.
Should add to defender and bh armor.
Steady Aim (Strategy I) - Enhances group accuracy.
MLS and BH will miss less and hit harder.
Blaze of Glory (Tactics III) - Gives or enhances the chance to score a critical hit.
MLS and BH good also.
Double Time (Tactics IV) - Reduces cooldown times for group members.
BH will hit faster.
MLS will be able to do Saber throw, head hit, body hit and leg hit moves every second if there saber is not to slow.
They will be able to do power hit much faster also.
Boost Morale (Leadership IV) - Enhances group Action/Mind regeneration.
If this stacks with food MLS and BH will never run out of mind or action or it will be very hard to run out.
Now if the SL are able to stack their stuff and this stuff also stacks with food i see some major unbalancing comeing.
Now i am not saying SL should not get the stuff i just hope it does not stack, with each other or food.
I also see atleast 1 SL with every BH after a Jedi. I hope the SL can not help a BH on after a Jedi or the Jedi better be able to attack the SL.
Message Edited by EVILxWARLOCK on 09-03-2005 08:42 AM
correct me if im wrong....but the new buffs, just like the old SL buffs and healscan't punch through the Jedi/BH tef.
MasterSheep
Sat Sep 03, 2005 1:33 pm
#11
correct me if im wrong....but the new buffs, just like the old SL buffs and healscan't punch through the Jedi/BH tef.
atm the passive mods do (group terrain neg group melee defence etc) but the active ones (volley fire - steady aim) dont - all new SL abilities are active so have no benifit to a BH during a tef
MikeHeXt
Sat Sep 03, 2005 1:34 pm
#12
Woohoo the 2 only squadleaders on my server will love it.
ZING!
ZING!
Blueblooded
Sat Sep 03, 2005 1:38 pm
#13
A jedi in our guild was attacked tonight whilst grouped with my Squad leader alt. The SL buffs dont apply / can t be applied whilst the TEf is active
btw, BH/CM did a good job, waited for the base almost to be down, my Jedi friend was low on force..and Boom. in the attack went. All credit for a good hit
want succesful (FR3 after a good fight), but still a nice attempt.
btw, BH/CM did a good job, waited for the base almost to be down, my Jedi friend was low on force..and Boom. in the attack went. All credit for a good hit
want succesful (FR3 after a good fight), but still a nice attempt.
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