Jedi Archive
Thread: Making things harder is not the answer!
KingoftheGrind wrote:
I responded to a post that thought the answer was to make jedi harder to get . And I decided my reply should be brought up for a post of its own. I want people to think about what it really means to make things harder for players.
I dont think making jedi harder to get will solve anything . Reason being is the majority who begin for first time playing this game will more of likely want to become jedi, especially since we are playing in star wars universe in a real life time of the release of Episode 3 . Everything right now is lightsabers and jedi incase you havn't noticed.
If you make jedi harder to get most people will not play this game long they will lose interest , especially if jedi is their goal .
I dont think very many full-template jedi even play their jedi very much to begin with, and when the FRS comes back , people will play them even less. Your not gonna be online with your jedi very much if you are permanantly overt . The only time you will be on is when you are feelin ready for some pvp action. Which for some people this is what they love to do, but for most I dont belive is the case.
The jedi population isnt the problem in this game right now . What is the problem is the " general Population" .
We need players ! Our servers used to be packed and now they are bare cause most people leave for probably the 2 most popular reasons. 1. Lack of content after jedi , or the nonjedi profession they chose. 2. Sick of everything constantly being changed, nerfed, however you put it.
SOE can easily bring people back into this game , and i will give ya 5 sure-fire ways right here and now on how to do it , then i will close and give ya something to think about .
1. Upgrade the Combat and make it a combo of whats good in CU and what was good in pre CU .
2. Add new quests , pois, and such every few weeks to give players continuosly new stuff to look forward to.
3. Bring combat and assualt vehicles into the galactic civalwar . players who are not jedi can fight jedi with these! Make jedi more powerful to accomadate for the power of the assult vehicles , droids etc.
4. Make crafters vital to the game once agian ! Vehicle parts can be made by all sort of doff types of crafters . Weaponsmiths, shiprights, droid-engineers . How awesome would that be to put some credits in the DE's pocket for once!
5. Get this FRS going , and make it totally like nothing SWG has evr seen in terms of leveling and RPG questing to be a jedi master ! Make people want to be jedi agian ! give people reason to go out and pick up a copy of SWg and put their spare time into a game worth while!
I can come up with many more tactics to sell this game and im not a even a sales man nor do i want to be , but this is the only way this game is ever gonan be comparable or better than what it used to be , we need GENERAL POPULATION! --Jakatta
Hmm, I disagree with everything you wrote in the first part. So, to concentrate on the good rather than the bad, I agree with the 2nd half. We, as a community, have suggested all these things before and great ideas but somehow they don't make it into the game.
/scratch head?
KingoftheGrind wrote:
I responded to a post that thought the answer was to make jedi harder to get . And I decided my reply should be brought up for a post of its own. I want people to think about what it really means to make things harder for players.
I dont think making jedi harder to get will solve anything . Reason being is the majority who begin for first time playing this game will more of likely want to become jedi, especially since we are playing in star wars universe in a real life time of the release of Episode 3 . Everything right now is lightsabers and jedi incase you havn't noticed.
If you make jedi harder to get most people will not play this game long they will lose interest , especially if jedi is their goal .
I dont think very many full-template jedi even play their jedi very much to begin with, and when the FRS comes back , people will play them even less. Your not gonna be online with your jedi very much if you are permanantly overt . The only time you will be on is when you are feelin ready for some pvp action. Which for some people this is what they love to do, but for most I dont belive is the case.
The jedi population isnt the problem in this game right now . What is the problem is the " general Population" .
We need players ! Our servers used to be packed and now they are bare cause most people leave for probably the 2 most popular reasons. 1. Lack of content after jedi , or the nonjedi profession they chose. 2. Sick of everything constantly being changed, nerfed, however you put it.
SOE can easily bring people back into this game , and i will give ya 5 sure-fire ways right here and now on how to do it , then i will close and give ya something to think about .
1. Upgrade the Combat and make it a combo of whats good in CU and what was good in pre CU .
2. Add new quests , pois, and such every few weeks to give players continuosly new stuff to look forward to.
3. Bring combat and assualt vehicles into the galactic civalwar . players who are not jedi can fight jedi with these! Make jedi more powerful to accomadate for the power of the assult vehicles , droids etc.
4. Make crafters vital to the game once agian ! Vehicle parts can be made by all sort of doff types of crafters . Weaponsmiths, shiprights, droid-engineers . How awesome would that be to put some credits in the DE's pocket for once!
5. Get this FRS going , and make it totally like nothing SWG has evr seen in terms of leveling and RPG questing to be a jedi master ! Make people want to be jedi agian ! give people reason to go out and pick up a copy of SWg and put their spare time into a game worth while!
I can come up with many more tactics to sell this game and im not a even a sales man nor do i want to be , but this is the only way this game is ever gonan be comparable or better than what it used to be , we need GENERAL POPULATION! --Jakatta
add content without a new expansion how could you propose such a act?
im sorry but i dissagree you dont see it wrong that alot of people are buying this game just to be jedi if they want to do that go out and buy some jedi knight titles. theres so much to this game and nothing sickins me more than seeing some 20 minute old newb askin me or someone else how to become a jedi.
your addition ideas are cool and all but seems like soe wont add ant content without a expansion and when that hits its buggy as heck
I agree with dubber and disagree with the first part, but you have many great suggestions in the second part that have sadly been suggested before and gone unheard.
All we can do is keep suggesting
Do or do not there is no try
I reply'de on that post as well. I agree with youthe best way tosolve any issue would be just to add more stuff to do in the game.. I could imagine flying my xwing into the atmosphere of a planet to attack a base, people manning turrets to defend against air assualts and all other professions on the ground battling it out with hand held weapons or in vehicles. And finally a good reason to pvp, such as some kind of rewards?
The post you refer to was stating that jedi should be harder to obtain, and it is very easy to say that once you have become a jedi. My input to that post was a better way to do that which would be slowing down the initial visit of the old man, but I do truely think the best option is such as you have stated. Just give us more to do and spread it acrossall the planets. We need more players in this game and adding such featurescould possibly draw from the jedi craze.
I like how you think sykk . I have wanted so badly for the JTLS to come in contact with the ground. Anti-air turrets , anti air vehicles to defend against them buit better watch that master pilot dont get ya in site ..WooooHooo!
Assualt vehicles would accomadate for the hard hitting ships. Ahh man that would definatly feel like star wars.
And yes new players would be having so much fun with all the available content , vehicles, battles, etc, getting jedi would be the least of their worries.
So i think it would solve the problem with every noobie walking up and asking how they become jedi. Maybe they ask this cause they feel Jedi is the coolest thing to do in SWG . If they could master a profession or two and earn some credits to buy an assualt vehicle or battle droid to bust stuff up in maybe jedi wouldnt be their top priority.
Also i wanted to share another idea about making city structures targeted during guild or city wars , etc with the ability to protect them of course with players and non-player structures.If your house is destroyed , you can loot your stuff in the debree and place it in new house and it sets up just liek before , so all ya lost was the structure . Would give architects reason to make deeds agian.
All these ideas would boom our economy and make crafters vital once again .--Jak
I agree with this post but my idea for the jedi is this i played this game for almost 2 years before i even worried about jedi i didnt want to be a jedi for a long time. I frist was a master architect then i went to master bh tried commando also tkm.I then decided well lets try jedi something diffrent. I respect jedi because it does take time to do even under the new system.My idea is have a time requirement.I say you should at least have to have 1 year under your belt before you can even become fs.They can still do the pois and stuff for the old man but he wont come until you have the 1 year in. I know this will never happen but it would make the game better that way at least the new jedi will actually be vets to the game and not some l33t noob who pwns u!
Just my 2 cents