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Thread: They really need to allow the old group system back where friends can help BH's

TraceAntilles
Sat Sep 24, 2005 7:45 pm
#1

As well as allowing people in the Jedi's group to help. The problem with BH's really kicked in once they allowed them to master just about anything else besides MBH.


So what used to require two players now only requires one which really creates the illusion that the player is stronger than the Jedi. In reality it was suppose to be two players.


Get an MBH to bring an MCM with him. That really makes WAY more sense and would put Jedi back in the 1.5 times stronger category.


I'm not saying BH's should be given the ability to help each other in the current borked system. They need to really have to grind for their profession though, like I had to when I was an MBH. Back then it was mastering marksman and scout, and even then you weren't stupid enough to go out by yourself, it took more brains than just food and doc buffs to successfully take out a mark, it took strategy. Something today's BH's do not have to rely on.


Today you get MCM and MBH with just THREE novice trees, wow!!



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battledroid01
Sat Sep 24, 2005 7:48 pm
#2

imo, i think this can go both ways, say when the FRS comes and their are Apprentices and masters.. They Apprentice should be able to help his/her master if he/she is in need... same for master will beable to help their apprentice..



Same with BH if the BH brings a few to tag along ..



This would work good for RP references.






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Dun-Edea
Sat Sep 24, 2005 7:49 pm
#3


I agree, but won't happen.


The "Balance" is way out of whack. Essentially, BH is THE ranged profession of choice. Because it is capabel of mixing a mastery of a ranged weapon, and 4000 CM, or mastery of CM and enough of a ranged weapon to root, or snare an opponent.


IMO, doctor and CM need to be moved back to requiring master medic. I don't think either should be nerfed, just have their prereqs increased back to what they were. This would litterly give jedi the 1.5 times powers in one easy fix.


For example, a non FS skilled Bh would be able to do MBH 0003 pistols, and 4000 CM with that in place. They could heal well, but thats about it.

Message Edited by Dun-Edea on 09-24-2005 09:52 PM



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Quiet420
Sat Sep 24, 2005 7:50 pm
#4

BH's work alone....without exception...they may compete for the same target...but they don't bring their crew.
battledroid01
Sat Sep 24, 2005 7:51 pm
#5






Quiet420 wrote:
BH's work alone....without exception...they may compete for the same target...but they don't bring their crew.






Wrong



Not all BHs, Remember The Duros from KOTOR II?



And Them Twi'leks who both helped each other hunt the exile?


Can add the HK droids too


Message Edited by battledroid01 on 09-24-2005 09:51 PM




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Dun-Edea
Sat Sep 24, 2005 7:53 pm
#6

BH are not working alone, there is a VERY simple way of taking the same Jedi's mission.



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battledroid01
Sat Sep 24, 2005 7:54 pm
#7

ah yes i forgot , what about dengar and boba they hunted together..Zuckaas and 4LOM also hunted together..




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Dun-Edea
Sat Sep 24, 2005 7:57 pm
#8

You guys are talking like the Devs have actually seen the movies or something.....



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TraceAntilles
Sat Sep 24, 2005 7:58 pm
#9


I'm just saying we should be requiring more of the elite professions than just two novice trees. It should still require the mastering of two professions to get novice BH.


Only if that is brought back, would it make sense to allow friends to help the BH's cause that's what other professions were meant for. What good is a pure master combat medic these days? They used to have a purpose, support.


But now anyone can get MCM with two trees and tack one more on and suddenly you are an MBH. This really skews the idea that Jedi are stronger cause they just aren't. They are in fact weaker and continually have their abilities diminished while now the BH's only need two trees.


Talk about unbalanced.




Through the force things you will see, other places, the future, the past; old friends long gone.
xEPICx
Sat Sep 24, 2005 8:00 pm
#10






Dun-Edea wrote:

BH are not working alone, there is a VERY simple way of taking the same Jedi's mission.





ya, I've had up to 4 BH's come after me a couple times.
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