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Thread: Is there any benefit a jedi can have from defeating a BH that cannot be abused?

Oss_Wilum
Sat Sep 24, 2005 8:05 pm
#1


Can anyone think of ANY incentives to fight a BH, and win, that would not leave itself open for abuse from those with BH alts or BH who allow jedi to pay them for a DB?


I can't, but i'd be interested to know if anyone has any.


pvp rating is nice, but its all so pointless, especially after 1700.



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TraceAntilles
Sat Sep 24, 2005 8:08 pm
#2


Well the system is already abused the way it is, I don't think you could ever introduce anything that people won't abuse.


Case in point when God introduced the male organ. That constantly gets abused, speaking of which...



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Oss_Wilum
Sat Sep 24, 2005 9:12 pm
#3






TraceAntilles wrote:


Well the system is already abused the way it is, I don't think you could ever introduce anything that people won't abuse.







how is it abused now? splitting 200k creds between the BH and jedi is pretty dumn and thats the ONLY thing that can be abused as it is, so i don't understand what kind of abuse you are talking about.


and thats not true i don't think.


we have CAs, we have maroj melons. If we were rewarded with one, we'd always abuse the system, if we were rewarded with the other, we'd never abuse it. Lets make an equation for abuse probability.


y = Abuse coefficient


a = desireability of item


b = relative usefulness of item


x= difficulty in aquiring item


t = time necessary to acquire item


n = number of steps neededfor a finished item


important laws:


t does not equal x


20 < b < 50, Items that would only be useful to have once are automatically 50


20 < a < 80


40< x < 60


1< t < 10


n is never less than 1


The key to those numbers is in their relativity to each other


y = (a * b)/( n * x)- ( x *t )/( a )


the key is to find a medium reward to make the desirability and usefulnessrise, mitigated by the number of steps to get it and the difficulty of each step


if you had an item desirable or usefull out of those bounds, nothign would matter and people would get it no matter what. the key is interpreting the kinds of items that fall in thosebounds and how difficult is difficult


now, we have bio linking.


say each unique bounty hunter you kill generates a bio-linkeditem in your inventory, we'll call it: Components


now, lets say, once you have 10 components, you maystackthemand select"assemble"for: A 5 socketed, bio-linked, decorative vest, in colors you cannot select


Lets say, you didn't trade in for the bio linked vest, say you waited till you had 20. Stack and assemble, for a6 socketed bio linked decorative vest in colors you can choose.


Now, lets say you waited till you had 30 components. you may now stack and assemble to create a bio-linked200 use lightsaber powerup, of random quality, but with absolute base and max stats that still make it worthwhile.


At 40 Components, it has 400 use; 50 components, 600 use; 60 components 800.


at 70 components, you may stack and assemble for: a bio-linked lightsaber optional component: The Defensive Emitter.


an optional lightsaber component with the following attributes: +3% lightsaber block, -15 accuracy.



anyway. Things that are usefull should come, but the difficulty or number of steps or time involved in each stepcan be extreme in terms of it's desirability and usefulness. uniqueness tracking, high requirements, high difficulty, randomness are all keys to mitigate abuse, the key is finding the balance between difficulty, tediousness, usability, desirability, and time that makes an item worth abusing for, or worth waiting for.




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"Remember remember the 15th of November
And the NGE treason and plot.
I see no reason why the NGE treason
Should ever be forgot."


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Maxil
Sat Sep 24, 2005 9:19 pm
#4

./...

too drunk to understand all that, cliffnotes version?

Anyway less exploiting of the system is taking place now since they removed names from the terminals, but in the past full templetes didn't care about losing xp, and they could make a couple mil a night..

Of course, pre-cu, you could make near a mil and hour hunting kugnkas and mokks....on top if you got lucky with a decent DOT knife..

Message Edited by Maxil on 09-24-2005 11:19 PM



Maxil





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Oss_Wilum
Sat Sep 24, 2005 10:28 pm
#5






Maxil wrote:
./...

too drunk to understand all that, cliffnotes version?

Anyway less exploiting of the system is taking place now since they removed names from the terminals, but in the past full templetes didn't care about losing xp, and they could make a couple mil a night..

Of course, pre-cu, you could make near a mil and hour hunting kugnkas and mokks....on top if you got lucky with a decent DOT knife..

Message Edited by Maxil on 09-24-2005 11:19 PM




of course i know all that dude, look at the forum registration date



-Excellion Khahi-
Dark Jedi

(gnn[[[[[[[[[[nnnnWX9ggggggggggggggggggggg)


"Remember remember the 15th of November
And the NGE treason and plot.
I see no reason why the NGE treason
Should ever be forgot."


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MDBangs
Sat Sep 24, 2005 10:57 pm
#6

Force rank use to be the only reason to fight. Even then it was kind of hard because most BH's were not MBH. Hard to give any idea's since adding a penalty to BH would make them all want to be 1.5x powerful like jedi, and if you make them drop some form of loot it would be nerfed almost instantly. I think a good reward for winning could be a day off of the terminals, or maybe no xp-loss for one day. It would be hard to abust it since getting your own mission now is hard to impossible. For full templates there is nothing to give them really, though I am sure many would like a trophy for killing a BH.
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