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Thread: Devs- Jedi NPCs are slightly disappointing....

SeraphinHunt
Sun Jul 06, 2003 9:46 pm
#1

Just thought I'd post something that maybe the devs would read and fix some things on the Jedi NPCs...


Last night I was in Mos Eisely looking for something to do and a pack of newer players wanted to go out and hunt Tuskens. Pretty much by looking at them I could tell they weren't really very experienced, and that a lot of them would be getting killed, or incapped quite frequently. But I was bored as hell and working on getting Pistol Specialist so I thought why not.


Anyways the only Tuskens that I had seen were down near Wayfar so that's where I was leading them. On the way we got attacked by some Bocatt's... they all died cept me and this other wookie. Then we went on down and got attacked by some bandits and crap, once again they all died and I had to run to Anchorhead to meet them. From there I sent a couple tells to some of my more experienced friends on the server and the shuttled out to meet us and join up with the group. So on we went from Anchorhead towards Wayfar when out in the middle of the desert I stop in my tracks.


Low and behold there's a Dark Jedi standing out there. We all stop, everyone is amazed. There must've been eight or nine of us in the group at the time. I said "Let's attack it". We all knew about the fact that they are really strong and all of that, but I wanted to see a Jedi in action. So everyone agreed except this onefreagin' wookie, who previously stood and watched me get attacked by like four thugs all at once (whom I killed down the last one who was one shot away before he incapped me, then the wookie finished him =\). So we all rush in kind of like idiots and attack. The Jedi killed half of us in the first four minutes and the rest of us within the next ten minutes. But we got her down to half healt so we were like lets go back and finish her.


For some reason the server reset and we all had to relog by the time we all got back in and got out there the Jedi was back to full health and two members of our group were gone, we were down to seven or something.


We find the other Jedi and attack, once again we were all slain but got it down to half health. We repeated the same step, but our group members number dropped to five. Went out there and the Jedi was back to full life, so we attack again. Got it down to half health but the Jedi killed three of us. So two retreated. Then watched the Jedi from their camp till we got back. It stayed at about 40% health with people watching so we got back, attacked and killed the Jedi, suffering no losses from then on.


What we got off the Jedi: Wookie Bowcaster, 2 CDEF pistols, some laser rifle that looks like a shotgun that does 7-203 dmg, 2 SR pistols, multipocket Bandolier, and a force crystal.


How Much XP we got- I personally got 3300 or so points. The others got close to the same.


Combat experience- 330 or so.


Now the disappointing part. Three more Jedi respawned after that. NONE of the Jedi that we fought had lightsabers. Well they did, but some bug didn't allow us to see them. Instead they were running around with the handle and that's it.


The next three that spawned we killed. All of them. It was easy. Why? The Jedi AI, unfortunately, is no better than any other mob. It reminded me a lot of when we fought a Mountain Squill when we were all really weak. We just surrounded him in a circle and he couldn't choose a target. He'd get on someone then switch targets before reaching the shooter. The Jedis did the EXACT same thing. Only the first one we killed had any loot.


They took awhile to take out, but out of four Jedi I died three times, same for the other four members of our group. But it was like.... just disappointing. The only reason we would get killed was cause we'd get too cocky and get too close and then lag would get us (ie the Jedi is ten feet away and we die from their melee swing with the 'invisible' lightsabers).


We were gonna sit there all night and kill every single one that respawned because of how easy they were (the only hard part was waiting a long time for their health to go down), and then rack up xp.


All I know is, there is a bug with the lightsaber so you can't see it, which was disappointing. And that they certainly don't live up to the hype built up by devs. I know that if it were a PC Jedi we would've been slaughtered with ease. But I mean..... if that's how the AI is then even Vader or Luke would be easy as hell to kill.


Jedi don't block laser shots, or deflect them. Didn't use any force powers, just ran within five feet of you and you fell to the ground cause of how the game is with mob brawlers and what not. I would just suggest either improve the AI or dont have NPC Jedi..... cause it really kind of ruined the whole thing for me. I'm sure if I'm ever up against a PC Jedi I will be cut into peices easily. But NPC Jedi are easy. All you need is four people that are marksmen and you are good to go.


Hell I was with a Tusken hunting party of like twenty some people (a lot were new ass players but still) and I mean the Tusken King alone slaughtered the majority of them. We hit the camp and killed all the Raiders and the Banthas with minimal losses, then the King came out and killed everyone. Those that lived were those that ran like hell. He got me in two hits and cause he could shoot a gun he didn't have trouble picking a target.


In short, NPC Jedi really aren't impressive. Don't get too blown away when you see one, fellas. When you see a PC Jedi, then you can be impressed....




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Halfalife
Wed Oct 19, 2005 8:26 pm
#2




In short, NPC Jedi really aren't impressive. Don't get too blown away when you see one, fellas. When you see a PC Jedi, then you can be impressed....







WOW weren't those the days? I so miss that... now its like "When you see a PC jedi, then you can roll on the floor laughing at them because within moments their hard work of grinding will be taken away by a bh who doesn't even really have to try hard to kill him."



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StarPilot3000
Wed Oct 19, 2005 8:31 pm
#3

8-9 in the group uh uh














THere can only be 8 in a group





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Teioh
Wed Oct 19, 2005 8:32 pm
#4



StarPilot3000 wrote:

8-9 in the group uh uh

THere can only be 8 in a group





noob



Oh and one more thing. Have you guys ever seen those sigs that are lines of text and look like they are a part of the post?

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HanzoShinobi
Wed Oct 19, 2005 8:34 pm
#5



StarPilot3000 wrote:

8-9 in the group uh uh

THere can only be 8 in a group






lol reread the post date. This was just days after launch. Necro-post for teh win!



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Goomesh
Wed Oct 19, 2005 8:36 pm
#6






StarPilot3000 wrote:

8-9 in the group uh uh


THere can only be 8 in a group








Look at the date on the post...ya...its more than two years old....



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Rebiv
Wed Oct 19, 2005 8:38 pm
#7

If you already didnt see this post is from July 7th, 2003, about 2 weeks after the release of the game. I remember seeing this post on the forums and I couldn't believe I saw it here. These were the days....when you were amazed at a Large Tatooine House being in your name and seeing the amazing scenery of Jabba's Palace and seeing the shuttles land in the Starport....


Oh well, those times are gone now, and will never be back, as this game is slowly regressing into a second class MMO. So much canbe done if only the devs applies themselves and instead of fixing original bugs and adding pointless expansions, and try to expand on the Star Wars aspect of the game. Instead, we sit here, watch our characters become useless, make all the weapons completely inaccurate to the movies, and make a supposedly elite class like Jedi a seemingly basic profession anyone can get.





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JediJamie
Wed Oct 19, 2005 8:41 pm
#8






Teioh wrote:





StarPilot3000 wrote:

8-9 in the group uh uh














THere can only be 8 in a group








noob




LOL Yeah he's a noob







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StarPilot3000
Wed Oct 19, 2005 8:48 pm
#9

Sry didnt see the date and i am not a noob been playing since lauch activated this late and i got 3 jedi So



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cahn-a-licious
Wed Oct 19, 2005 8:52 pm
#10






StarPilot3000 wrote:

8-9 in the group uh uh


THere can only be 8 in a group








duh, look at me, i am proving you wrong by trying to be cute and deface your credibility and intelligence......by not reading the post date and looking like an even bigger tard. nice try on the flame dork.



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StarPilot3000
Wed Oct 19, 2005 8:53 pm
#11






cahn-a-licious wrote:





StarPilot3000 wrote:

8-9 in the group uh uh


THere can only be 8 in a group








duh, look at me, i am proving you wrong by trying to be cute and deface your credibility and intelligence......by not reading the post date and looking like an even bigger tard. nice try on the flame dork.





Not a flame and yah i didnt look at post date woot



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