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Thread: Need Defender Advice

Oracle74
Mon Sep 26, 2005 10:16 am
#1

I'm thinking of changing my template slightly and wondered if anyone had any experience or could help with some testing.. I'm MLS, 4004 Healer, 0044 Defender, and 1004 Enhancer. I'm considering dropping Force Valor and moving that tree to Melee Defense. The 3 things that will change are:


Melee Defense increases from 115 to 170

Innate Jedi Armor increases from 10 to 22

Loss of Improved Force Valor for block +25


So my question is: is it worth it? Which one will be more effective for defense?


Thanks!



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mave25
Mon Sep 26, 2005 10:20 am
#2






Oracle74 wrote:

I'm thinking of changing my template slightly and wondered if anyone had any experience or could help with some testing.. I'm MLS, 4004 Healer, 0044 Defender, and 1004 Enhancer. I'm considering dropping Force Valor and moving that tree to Melee Defense. The 3 things that will change are:


Melee Defense increases from 115 to 170

Innate Jedi Armor increases from 10 to 22

Loss of Improved Force Valor for block +25


So my question is: is it worth it? Which one will be more effective for defense?


Thanks!






Do it, while your added drop the state/dot healer line and pick up FA2, then ditch meditate, and go enhancer 3402, then your template will be perfect.



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LostBoyJim
Tue Sep 27, 2005 12:21 am
#3






Oracle74 wrote:

I'm thinking of changing my template slightly and wondered if anyone had any experience or could help with some testing.. I'm MLS, 4004 Healer, 0044 Defender, and 1004 Enhancer. I'm considering dropping Force Valor and moving that tree to Melee Defense. The 3 things that will change are:


Melee Defense increases from 115 to 170

Innate Jedi Armor increases from 10 to 22

Loss of Improved Force Valor for block +25


So my question is: is it worth it? Which one will be more effective for defense?


Thanks!





My opinion is that it depends on whether you pve or pvp more, and what type of pvp you do. Obviously melee defense increasing to 170 is good vs. pve and melee pvp, but most BH are ranged combos and melee defense won't help.You also already have xx4x Defender which includes Aura, so increased defense won't help you that much (if you run Aura like I do). When you get a bonus of +500defense from Aura, the +55 of themelee line just really isn't that much of a difference at that high a defense level.


Innate jedi armor going from 10 to 22 will block about 8-10% more of all damage, regardless of melee/range, and that's OK.


Force valor's +25 to block means taking about 33% more hits from ranged enemies, including BH's and ranged NPC's. Does that increase in damage taken outweigh the 8% decrease in damage from the armor? I think so. I don't think this is a good trade myself.


So my advice is: if you mostly pve and do some pvp and aren't worried about BH strikes, go for it. If you mostly pvp or are worried about BH's, I don't think I'd do it.





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Daytona
Tue Sep 27, 2005 12:41 am
#4

Tough choice... With Jedi being sooooo easy to grind, why don't you try things out for yourself. The only way you are going to know what you like and what works well for you is to try out the different options. It isn't like the grind Pre CU, so it should only take a day or 2 to get back the xp to change it up again.


I myself enjoy Valor, it is great to watch the +Block+ go up as often as it does... but then again, I am a Master Defender for the time being.


I am thinking of switching my temp around to pick up one of the above mentioned temps with 34x2 Enhancer.





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Oracle74
Tue Sep 27, 2005 10:28 am
#5

Heh- forgot to mention I HATE to grind. I unlocked in January 2004, did a little grinding under all the various systems (perma-death, tracked deaths, xp loss), then put the jedi on the shelf for a while b/c I hated the solo grind and the treks to the nether regions of endor, etc. Just before pub 9, I decided to get on it, and finished up a couple levels under the old system so I would convert favorably. I made Knight in Jan 2005, and haven't changed my template through xp grinding since. I did make one or two changes during the respec, and I have my token in case I want to do something drastic, but I'm not a grind-and-try kind of player..


The point about Aura's 500 vs. the 55 isgood one - I hadn't thought about that.. and my template is mostly built on what skills I think I'd like to have, not what will be teh ub3r pvp l33t skillz, so I'm not leaning strongly either way yet.


Thanks for your feedback, guys.. I'll keep checking in to see if anyone has any other ideas. Honestly the 3402 Enhancer intrigues me a bit, except for the cost of improved speed on action and force for a dabbler template.





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