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EvolvedDemon
Thu Nov 03, 2005 3:47 pm
#1
Try not to think of nationalCommunism, justcommunism of the respec.
Communism: giving everyone an equal role when they are clearly not equal.
To all non-jedi who despise whiney jedi: I know it took you along time to find that perfect set of armor, or that perfect gun, or those perfect resources... And that you believe that time spent was equal to those of jedi. However, Jedi too were once those master professions, and on top of that grinded through the jedi system. Us jedi once sought out those capped items, and still do in terms of sabers and foods... Simply: It is a longer process to become a successful jedi than ANY other COMBAT profession. From experience, I know this is true. So to know that the time I've wasted at the FS village, or in my current jedi skills could have been used elsewhere, sort of ticks me off.
I believe that those who have successfully trained in some but not all of the FS branches, should be given some sort of unlocks to that new FS/jedi system.
I simply can't sit still as I watch this game go from: A system where becoming the most sought after profession takes the most time
to
a system where a 1 month noob will be of equal ranks to my 2 year char.
This is collective communism, and not only this but they are trying to SELL it to me. Two words: Subscription Cancelled
Kyodor
Thu Nov 03, 2005 3:59 pm
#2
That's not called Communism.
Communism's main purpose is so that the social and political order is organised so the production is commonly owned. Communism seeks to create a classles society.
I'd recommend you retract your link between Communism and SWG Respecs. It doesn't work and is misleading.
Communism's main purpose is so that the social and political order is organised so the production is commonly owned. Communism seeks to create a classles society.
I'd recommend you retract your link between Communism and SWG Respecs. It doesn't work and is misleading.
EvolvedDemon
Thu Nov 03, 2005 4:16 pm
#3
But SWG IS becoming a classless society. That's what I'm saying. A 1 month noob is going to be equal to a Day 1 character. I don't agree with class hierarchy within a society, but within an MMO there must be boundaries. Otherwise there is no incentive to play for an extended period of time. Just like in communism, there is no incentive to become a surgeon, or an engineer, or any other difficult to obtain profession(they all get paid the same 
)
)Classes of SWG:
-Prepublish 9 Jedi
-Day one characters&Jedi
-Lvl 80's
-Lvl 80 newbs who are used to MMORPG's and think they're the sh1t
-Newbs
or
36Unique Professions becoming 9, count em NINE!
Even4 year olds will be able to count how many professions there are
Maybe it's not Communism, but the elements that are inherent of this CU2 are highly similar.
Message Edited by EvolvedDemon on 11-03-2005 03:17 PM
maasterapollo
Thu Nov 03, 2005 4:19 pm
#4
Kyodor wrote:
That's not called Communism.
Communism's main purpose is so that the social and political order is organised so the production is commonly owned. Communism seeks to create a classles society.
I'd recommend you retract your link between Communism and SWG Respecs. It doesn't work and is misleading.
Yes. There are 9 classes in CU2. Hardly classless.
Communism, such as the case with the Khmer Rouge, would murder those that they felt were intellectuals, doctors, businessmen, any that would of looked down on the farmer in order to create that classless society.
To the original poster. MUHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
I don't see a lot of people posting in the "I hate Garva" thread now!
EvolvedDemon
Thu Nov 03, 2005 4:26 pm
#5
Aaah... here come the CSR's to gank my character because I look down at that know-it-all lvl 29 noob lol
At least I can laugh after being dissappointed.There once was a time whenloved this game... now I only love the people.
PS. The CSR's used a blue frog and respec tokens to make the character's they are coming to gank me with lol
Message Edited by EvolvedDemon on 11-03-2005 03:26 PM
Wolf24601
Thu Nov 03, 2005 4:27 pm
#6
Kyodor wrote:
That's not called Communism.
Communism's main purpose is so that the social and political order is organised so the production is commonly owned. Communism seeks to create a classles society.
I'd recommend you retract your link between Communism and SWG Respecs. It doesn't work and is misleading.
LOL...your commentary is just as misleading...
You discuss the ideal. The OP discusses the reality.
Wolf
Sneev
Thu Nov 03, 2005 5:16 pm
#8
EvolvedDemon wrote:Try not to think of national Communism, just communism of the respec.Communism: giving everyone an equal role when they are clearly not equal....This is collective communism, and not only this but they are trying to SELL it to me. Two words: Subscription Cancelled
What utter horses#!^. Are you a citizen of the US? Aren't you supposed to believe that "all people are created equal" and live in a nation that claims to be classless? Where all have an equal opportunity?
I mean I know thats not the case in reality, that the rich live by one set of standards and determine who gets elected to office by controlling the purse strings and applying bribes^H^H^H Campaign Contributions and Special Interest groups and Lobbies shape government policy on behalf of Rich Corporations; that a few select families control the majority of the money in the country and that a company or a rich citizen has greater rights than the common citizen or a poor one. I know there is rampant racism, poverty, violent behaviour and many other social problems - but those are not the principles your country was founded on are they? They are byproducts of the system that its originators would not support.
Communism says "from each according to their abilities, to each according to their needs". It looks good on paper and works like crap in the real world because it assumes that the average person is a good minded person willing to work for the benefit of all, and thats simply not the case. People are self centered and work for their own interests.
There is hardly a comparison here but if you want one, the fact that "any boy can be jedi" is more of an capitalist concept than a Communistic one. Everyone has an equal chance if they can afford it (ie subscribe) and what you make of it is your own business, be as successful as you can.
I reallly wish the folks who made it to Jedi could get over the fact that they did so, and lose the notion that they are somehow special. You didn't achieve anything. No one cares. No one is impressed. You are decieving yourself if you think you are somehow special or more deserving, or like the OP feel they are a superior form of being evidently.
All you did was play a game, and you chose to play it by grinding mindlessly on bols (or whatever) until you got to play another way. Honestly, you don't deserve any special consideration. no one does really. The fact that SOE is giving you tons of perks is great for you, a marketing strategy for them designed to keep you locked into paying them, and nothing more.
We are all equal, we are all customers and we all pay (roughly) the same amount for an account. Thats it, thats all. If you played a Jedi since week one, or you spent your entire time playing for 2 years as an afk entertainer in the Mos Eisley Cantina, you are no different, no better, no worse, just a paying customer.
EvolvedDemon
Thu Nov 03, 2005 5:55 pm
#9
-I'm not a citizen of the US.
-I am supposed to believe that 'all people are created equal'... but an 18 year old is not equal to a 2 year old as is the case with the respec, where noobs can be equal to knowledgable veterans.
- Everyone has had an equal oppurtunity: everyone could have bought the game at release, but chose not to.
Sneev wrote:
I reallly wish the folks who made it to Jedi could get over the fact that they did so, and lose the notion that they are somehow special. You didn't achieve anything. No one cares. No one is impressed. You are decieving yourself if you think you are somehow special or more deserving, or like the OP feel they are a superior form of being evidently.
Welcome to the Jedi Forums buddy!
gotslapped
Thu Nov 03, 2005 5:56 pm
#10
This is collective communism, and not only this but they are trying to SELL it to me. Two words: Subscription Cancelled
It's much more powerful to just cancel, rather than "SAY" you are going to cancel.
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