Jedi Archive

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Pday wrote:

First piece of evidence, 89 sac, 705 min, 1263 max, 2.98 speed (1.72 mod speed still need +19 gen melee speed), swung by a character with 75% armor break sliced armor, with a base accuracy of 300, 325 when my temp is done, with 230 melee def without clothes, 148 speed, + adrenal buff.

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And you know that with aura+whatnot running the damage will fall towards the minimum? Where as our sabers have so tiny min/max values it doesnt really matter how big the opponents defense is, the damage is pretty much the same.(Well, you do miss more with high defenses, obviously)

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Wighti wrote:

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Pday wrote:

First piece of evidence, 89 sac, 705 min, 1263 max, 2.98 speed (1.72 mod speed still need +19 gen melee speed), swung by a character with 75% armor break sliced armor, with a base accuracy of 300, 325 when my temp is done, with 230 melee def without clothes, 148 speed, + adrenal buff.

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And you know that with aura+whatnot running the damage will fall towards the minimum? Where as our sabers have so tiny min/max values it doesnt really matter how big the opponents defense is, the damage is pretty much the same.(Well, you do miss more with high defenses, obviously)

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You do know that when i take crispic at finished template with all my tapes in i have 404 accuracy, with correlian ale i have about 550 accuracy which in turn means your aura isnt worth anything.

404 accuracy means that i hit you regardless of aura just about every single time, and armor break means il hit you for just about 900 every single hit. With a 705 minimum damage on my hammer i actually have a higher minimum than every single saber in the game. My powerhammer has a higher min than 90% of the sabers out there. And yeah sabers have the elemental but the extra min i have also gets multiplied by the special unlike elemental.

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Pday wrote:

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Wighti wrote:

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Pday wrote:

First piece of evidence, 89 sac, 705 min, 1263 max, 2.98 speed (1.72 mod speed still need +19 gen melee speed), swung by a character with 75% armor break sliced armor, with a base accuracy of 300, 325 when my temp is done, with 230 melee def without clothes, 148 speed, + adrenal buff.

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And you know that with aura+whatnot running the damage will fall towards the minimum? Where as our sabers have so tiny min/max values it doesnt really matter how big the opponents defense is, the damage is pretty much the same.(Well, you do miss more with high defenses, obviously)

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You do know that when i take crispic at finished template with all my tapes in i have 404 accuracy, with correlian ale i have about 550 accuracy which in turn means your aura isnt worth anything.

404 accuracy means that i hit you regardless of aura just about every single time, and armor break means il hit you for just about 900 every single hit. With a 705 minimum damage on my hammer i actually have a higher minimum than every single saber in the game. My powerhammer has a higher min than 90% of the sabers out there. And yeah sabers have the elemental but the extra min i have also gets multiplied by the special unlike elemental.

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Yeah... MDef with Aura running is 500 (Aura)+ 200 (MDef melee defence - about that because I can't remember the exact number) + 100 (Vegparsine) = ~800 Melee defence.

I see what you mean.

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VaainEldritch wrote:

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Pday wrote:

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Wighti wrote:

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Pday wrote:

First piece of evidence, 89 sac, 705 min, 1263 max, 2.98 speed (1.72 mod speed still need +19 gen melee speed), swung by a character with 75% armor break sliced armor, with a base accuracy of 300, 325 when my temp is done, with 230 melee def without clothes, 148 speed, + adrenal buff.

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And you know that with aura+whatnot running the damage will fall towards the minimum? Where as our sabers have so tiny min/max values it doesnt really matter how big the opponents defense is, the damage is pretty much the same.(Well, you do miss more with high defenses, obviously)

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You do know that when i take crispic at finished template with all my tapes in i have 404 accuracy, with correlian ale i have about 550 accuracy which in turn means your aura isnt worth anything.

404 accuracy means that i hit you regardless of aura just about every single time, and armor break means il hit you for just about 900 every single hit. With a 705 minimum damage on my hammer i actually have a higher minimum than every single saber in the game. My powerhammer has a higher min than 90% of the sabers out there. And yeah sabers have the elemental but the extra min i have also gets multiplied by the special unlike elemental.

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Yeah... MDef with Aura running is 500 (Aura)+ 200 (MDef melee defence - about that because I can't remember the exact number) + 100 (Vegparsine) = ~800 Melee defence.

I see what you mean.

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diminishing returns hit hard at that point trust me ive tried this vs m.defs, they tend to get hit for around 750 when armor broken.

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Pday wrote:

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VaainEldritch wrote:

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Pday wrote:

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Wighti wrote:

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Pday wrote:

First piece of evidence, 89 sac, 705 min, 1263 max, 2.98 speed (1.72 mod speed still need +19 gen melee speed), swung by a character with 75% armor break sliced armor, with a base accuracy of 300, 325 when my temp is done, with 230 melee def without clothes, 148 speed, + adrenal buff.

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And you know that with aura+whatnot running the damage will fall towards the minimum? Where as our sabers have so tiny min/max values it doesnt really matter how big the opponents defense is, the damage is pretty much the same.(Well, you do miss more with high defenses, obviously)

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You do know that when i take crispic at finished template with all my tapes in i have 404 accuracy, with correlian ale i have about 550 accuracy which in turn means your aura isnt worth anything.

404 accuracy means that i hit you regardless of aura just about every single time, and armor break means il hit you for just about 900 every single hit. With a 705 minimum damage on my hammer i actually have a higher minimum than every single saber in the game. My powerhammer has a higher min than 90% of the sabers out there. And yeah sabers have the elemental but the extra min i have also gets multiplied by the special unlike elemental.

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Yeah... MDef with Aura running is 500 (Aura)+ 200 (MDef melee defence - about that because I can't remember the exact number) + 100 (Vegparsine) = ~800 Melee defence.

I see what you mean.

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diminishing returns hit hard at that point trust me ive tried this vs m.defs, they tend to get hit for around 750 when armor broken.

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Yup yup... judicious use of one's AB-resistance crystal from ToOW is in order when fighting something like this. I dowish they'd make AB-resistance a Defender skill.

Message Edited by VaainEldritch on 10-31-2005 11:44 AM

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Wighti wrote:

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Pday wrote:

First piece of evidence, 89 sac, 705 min, 1263 max, 2.98 speed (1.72 mod speed still need +19 gen melee speed), swung by a character with 75% armor break sliced armor, with a base accuracy of 300, 325 when my temp is done, with 230 melee def without clothes, 148 speed, + adrenal buff.

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And you know that with aura+whatnot running the damage will fall towards the minimum? Where as our sabers have so tiny min/max values it doesnt really matter how big the opponents defense is, the damage is pretty much the same.(Well, you do miss more with high defenses, obviously)

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Judging from the PH stats (705 min) it doesnt matter that the damage falls towards the min if it is used against a target with high defenses. That min damage is almost as high as the max damage on a great saber. Factor in that the Jedi can be armor broken while the PH-wielder is 75% AB-resistant and that weapon will outperform a lightsaber any time.

Polearm, Fencer, Swords,Jedi? What kind of weapon we talkin about?

my guess is a pre-cu PH pupped, and sliced rather nicely. I'll figure temp out later. Nice hammer btw.

Message Edited by jokerbacca on 10-31-2005 03:23 AM

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jokerbacca wrote:

my guess is a pre-cu PH pupped, and sliced rather nicely. I'll figure temp out later. Nice hammer btw.

Message Edited by jokerbacca on 10-31-2005 03:23 AM

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Post CU powerhammer, 89 sac is the base non pu sac cost.

We miss to many times compared to how low is our dmg.